Alan McKinnon wrote:  
> Ah, but YUM is a front-end to rpm and gaining traction.

Huh?  I know a lot of people here live in "home consumer"
land, but when is the last time you'all looked at CIO, IDC
and various business deployment numbers on CentOS and
RHEL?  You do know YUM has been the standard for such
for over 2 years now?  And that's not including the great
number of Enterprises that have been using YUM for the
last 5 years.

It is in as widespread use as APT, and that's been the case
for years now.

> rpm itself is (with good reason) an objective on its own.

In enteprises, YUM commands are used 10x more than RPM,
just like APT over DPKG. This viewpoint is beyond aged.

YUM is to RPM as APT is to DPKG. Not only did YUM start
on a different distro than anything Red Hat, but there are
few RPM-based distros that have not adopted it.  YUM
v3 is over 3 years old.  Even YUM v2 releases from 5+
years ago had "localinstall" so one should *NEVER*
run "rpm -ihv," *PERIOD*.  I continue to chalk up un-
appreciation for YUM outside of Enterprises due to lack
of exposure and total unfamiliarity.

YUM also has a plug-in architecture. Long story short,
combined with RPM 4.6 and Spacewalk with delta'ing, the
days of full package updates are extremely dated.

> If we include YUM in the objectives, I suppose we should
> include urpmi and YaST as well.

If you can prove that URPMI and YaST have over a 30%
marketshare in Enterprises and SMBs like YUM, then I'd
say yes.  But I know the two combined don't even come
close. CentOS used YUM even before RHEL did with its
RHN plug-in, and many enterprises did the same.

Covering APT without covering YUM, and ignorant home
consumers relaying the igorance that Red Hat uses RPM
in comparison to APT, gets really old. In fact, it's the
quickest way to end a job interview in a great majority
of enterprises.  I still cannot believe people who still
telegraph their unfamilarity so quickly.

Given sheer marketshare, for your own benefit, please
don't proliferate this. If you don't believe, compare the
marketshare of YUM-based distros versus APT-based
distros, let alone the percentage of RPM-based distros
that are YUM-based.  ;)

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