Anselm Lingnau wrote:
> Donald A. Tevault wrote:
> 
>> I have to agree.  I can see having an exam candidate know how to create
>> user accounts, grant privileges, etc.  But, I don't understand the
>> emphasis on manipulating data tables.  That should definitely be the job
>> of a database admin.
> 
> I think this is the wrong way round.
> 
> I'd look to a database administrator to deal with the intricacies of creating 
> user accounts and setting up privileges -- after all, these even depend on 
> the 
> database system that one is using.
> 
Not fully convinced by this, one of the most frequent task for a
sysadmin dealing whit databases is having to install and configure a web
application that require to create a database and an user with
appropriate privileges to write on it. Nothing so complex to require a
DBA...

So I think that creating a database, an user account and granting it
privilege access in such simple manner is a basic knowledge needed for
sysadmin.

But that's right, these operation are different depending on database
system you are using, so it will be difficult to put them on a generic test.

> However, it turns out that these days many software packages allow things 
> like 
> logging to SQL databases rather than files. As a system administrator one 
> must 
> know how to query these logs. Similarly, there are SQL backends for storing 
> user accounts or DNS resource records. Finally, various software packages use 
> SQLite databases as their native file format (e.g., Firefox). On occasion, it 
> is very useful to be able to access these files in SQL.
> 

That's right but most of these operation are just SELECT to read data;
in my experience the only other operation that I used sometime is UPDATE
to change some values in a table, but this far less common than needing
to create a database and give access to a dedicated user. I almost never
used JOIN, DELETE, INSERT... so I have lot of doubts covering these in
the exam.

Simone
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