Hi everyone, On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:17 PM, G. Matthew Rice <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Anselm Lingnau > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Alessandro Selli wrote (quoting Mehdi Amiri): > >> know about not just Android, Debian and CentOS, but also about RedHat, > >> Fedora, SuSE/Novell, Ubuntu, Slackware and Mandriva, and possibly a few > >> more. > > > > I think this gets silly very quickly. What do you mean »know about« – > must > > My problem is that the choice of 'important' distros is also varied > around the planet. > > I haven't met a Mandriva user in a couple of years in my neighbourhood. > > Because the Linux Essential Exam should be useful for all Linux beginners even in schools, I think a minimum number of major distribution in both commercial & community base projects should be enough. I suggest: Debian, Fedora & openSUSE for community based projects and SUSE & RHEL for Enterprise use. We can also add Ubuntu because it has a large number of community members in desktop users. I think other distributions like Mandriva, Slackware, Mint and ... can be dropped in objectives. In my opinion, Android, CentOS and Debian is not enough in the objectives. I think Linux beginners should be aware of the existence of a short list of major distributions. > >> > Topic: 1.2.2 > >> > The candidates should be also be aware of distributions software > support > >> > model & the meaning of Long Term Support (LTS) in some Enterprise > >> > distribution. > > > > Do we run a Linux exam or a marketing exam? > > I dunno. Some of the wording on the current objectives are kinda > markety... :) > > Long term is not a marketing term only, we have Long term kernel as well, do we market a kernel version? Also most distributions have separate software channels for their users. For example RHEL & Fedora, Debian Testing & Debian Stable, Ubuntu & Ubuntu LTS. It is just about the software life cycle, not only marketing. > >> > Topic 1.2.5 > >> A basic use of netstat is both easy and a useful tool to detect, for > >> instance, currently established TCP/IP connections. Even a beginner, > IMO, > >> should be able to do netstat | grep ftp to see if there are currently > open > >> FTP sockets. > > > > I'm not happy with this objective at all. It drags in a very large amount > of > > theory for something that new Linux users basically don't need to know. > The > > <snip> > > Having said that, I can see a certain minimal amount of sense in having > > »ping«, but routing? ifconfig? netstat? resolv.conf (which is > incidentally > > misspelled in the wiki)? Give me a break. This is supposed to be an > > *introductory* exam. > > I have to agree here. For most installations, the networking just > works once you plug in a cable or look for a wireless network. > > I'd prefer to see the 'Networking Your Computer' changed to 'Your > Computer on the Network' or something. ping, traceroute/path, > host/dig/nslookup (maybe still keep resolv.conf). And a diagram of an > IP packet breakdown... > > Many school students don't know what is TCP/IP and what is established/listen/etc connection and so on. netstat command is easy for you but not very easy for students. Also I agree most the networking topics like ifconfig, route, ping , resolv.conf are difficult without having knowledge of networking. Regular users or students just let the tools like network-manager to configure their network without any idea what is happening. Please keep this exam as simple as it's possible for Linux beginners without diving to networking topics. Best Regards -- Mehdi Amiri Managing Director LPI Iran, sub-affiliate of LPI Middle East *A.V. Co. LTD* *Cell: +98.912.3193956 Fax: +98.21.88247708* *Web: www.lpi-iran.org* *Web: www.av.co.ir * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *****Save a tree**. *Don't print this e-mail unless it's really necessary. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from A.V. Co., which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. Any use of the information contained herein in any way (including, but not limited to, total or partial disclosure, reproduction, or dissemination) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by phone or email immediately and delete it.
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