On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 at 09:17:15 +0100
Simone Piccardi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Il 11/12/2017 16:30, Sergio Belkin ha scritto:
>>
>> 2017-12-10 11:55 GMT-03:00 Simone Piccardi <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>
>>     Il 09/12/2017 23:31, Sergio Belkin ha scritto:  
>>     >
>>     > * Basic configuration of iptables  
>> 
>>     iptables are deprecated too, for nftables, also if for the moment the
>>     switch is almost everywhere postponed.
>>
>>     But more than this, what dose "basic" means here, and how it is meant
>> to be teached and learned without the knowledge of the netfilter
>>     architecture (that does not seems a basic argument, at least to me).
>>
>>
>>     Simone
>>     _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> Hey, how many distros use nftables instead iptables by default?
>>
>>
> None of the relevant ones, but that was not the point.
>
> The point is, what's "basic" means, and how it is possible to separate
> it from the understanding of the netfilter, that is not a basic argument
> and so in my opinion should not be in LPI 1.

  To me, basic means that at least two of the following conditions are met:

1) that is universally available;
2) that is widely used;
3) that constitutes the foundation of more complex, evolved tasks.

  Other than been off-topic to LPIC-1, I consider coverage of nftables
premature because LPI certification should target what today is used to get
the job done, consolidated tools of the trade, not what in the future is
going to be.  We should of course be ready for the time nftables will be the
default, general firewall tool, we'd better anticipate changes not to take
too much time updating the exam topics to reflect current, up-to-date
technology, but we should not put in the topics what today is very little
employed in both the Enterprise and the desktop market.

Alessandro
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