hi patric,
you use display a picture instead of the name ?
address collectors will sure learn in future that ??at?? equal @.
With a picture of the adress its not posible until they start 
image recognision. as bonus new users are not to confused.

walter



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From: Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LPRng: Effectiveness of anti-spam measures
Date: 06/25/04 07:50

On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 06:45:24AM -0700, Patrick Powell wrote:
> I fed it the last 6 months of the LPRng mailing list as 'ham'
> and the last couple of days of 'spam' as 'spam'.  Ummm...
> Well, it appears that most of the LPRng postings appear to be 'spam-like'
> as the filtering was less effective.
You need about 1000 of both for the training to work.  
Having only subscribers being able to email can help too, even if it
just puts a penalty onto the email instead of blocking it.
You can also have a whitelist subscription which works just like you
are subscribed but you receive no email.

Did it say it was spam-like or spam?  There is a scoring used so even
if the email scored 4 or so it still goes through.

> I removed the training and went back to the rule set method.
You can use both.

> I am thinking aobut adding some 'obfuscation' to the postings to
> remove or modify email addresses in headers/body so that mailing list
> monitors do not pick them up.  Simple changes such as
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> user _at_ hostname.place
> currently seem to be effective.
It can help. Not with list spam but with spam to subscribers of the
list.

There's no one good way, 60-90% of my email is detected spam or spam
attempts.

 - Craig
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Eye-Net Consulting http://www.enc.com.au/   MIEE         Debian developer
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