Hi Robert,

Please check inline below.

From: Robert Raszuk <[email protected]>
Sent: 10 March 2019 21:40
To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <[email protected]>
Cc: idr@ietf. org <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: draft-ketant-idr-bgp-ls-bgp-only-fabric

Hi Ketan,

I have read your proposal of defining topology flooding in BGP with interest.

It seems like a pretty brilliant twist to take pieces defined in other 
documents with their original intention for sending IGP information (LSDB or 
TED) over BGP extension and now use all of those without IGP at all :).
[KT] RFC7752 did always have “direct” and “static” protocols – so it was not 
just IGPs. We extended to include BGP protocol for describing Peering topology 
for the EPE use-case with draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-segment-routing-epe

But I have just one question here perhaps to the WG or ADs.

Almost all normative references used in this draft clearly state that they were 
defined for carrying information present in ISIS & OSPF protocols as rather a 
courtesy of transporting them over TCP with BGP envelope between network and 
controller.

Can we now just "reuse" verbatim all of those defined codepoints as well as 
redefine use of BGP-LS SAFI as a new link state p2p network topology transport 
just like that ?
[KT] The BGP-LS SAFI is still used to report link-state information. This draft 
describes how it can be done even when no IGP is running and we are instead 
running BGP protocol (in RFC7938 hop-by-hop routing design). Each router here 
is setting up a BGP-LS session with a controller or a centralized BGP speaker 
to report the router’s own node properties, links, prefixes, etc. The objective 
is build a link-state topology at the controller for specific use-cases like 
topology discovering and TE with SR as described in Sec 6 of the draft.

At min I would like to see some analysis included in this draft of running 
native link state protocol possibly with dynamic flooding optimization vs 
running BGP as the only routing protocol with using BGP as topology discovery 
transport before we proceed further on this document.
[KT] I am not sure I see the contrast here. Personally, I support the dynamic 
flooding optimization work in LSR. There are already DC networks deployed with 
RFC7938 design. All this draft is introducing is topology discovery and other 
use-cases in the latter.

Thanks,
Ketan

Kind regards,
Robert.

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