Hi authors,

My understanding is the draft is proposing a separate MT topology (unique 
MT-ID) to identify a forwarding treatment to be enforced on a shared resource.
While this may work for limited number of MT topologies (i.e. forwarding 
treatments), as described in RF5120 there is overhead with creating/advertising 
and managing and running separate SPF for each of the MT topology. This will 
restrict the scalability of such approach (number of forwarding treatments to 
be realized) using this approach.

In I-D.draft-bestbar-lsr-spring-sa we are proposing carrying an independent ID 
(associated with the forwarding treatment) independent of the topology ID. This 
allows the # of forwarding treatmentst to be independent of the # of MT 
topologies that need to be managed by IGP; and hence, allow it to scale. Your 
feedback on this approach is welcome.

Regards,
Tarek


On 3/8/21, 9:29 AM, "Lsr on behalf of Dongjie (Jimmy)" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Gyan,

Thanks for your comments.

As you mentioned, both MT and MI can provide separate topologies and the 
topology based computation, and MI can provide separate LSDBs at some 
additional cost (separate adjacencies, etc.). In this document, the resource of 
VTN mainly refers to the forwarding plane resources, thus MT is chosen as it 
can provide the required functionality with less overhead.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Jie

From: Lsr [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gyan Mishra
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 7:29 AM
To: Tony Przygienda <[email protected]>
Cc: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>; Chongfeng 
Xie <[email protected]>; Acee Lindem (acee) <[email protected]>; Robert 
Raszuk <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for 
Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - 
draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03


Dear Authors

Why was MT chosen and not MI for VTN underlay network slice underpinning.  MT 
instances has separate topology but not separate LSDB where MI Multi instance 
RFC 6822 has a separate LSDB for resources isolation and I think would be a 
better fit for VTN underlay provisioning.

MI
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6822

Thanks

Gyan

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 10:34 AM Tony Przygienda 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Robert ruminated:

That said I think perhaps we are indeed missing LROW WG (Local Routing 
Operations WG) where just like in GROW WG where mainly (Global) BGP operational 
aspects are discussed there could be good place to discuss operational aspects 
of link state protocols deployment and use cases. In fact perhaps it would also 
free some LSR bandwidth to really focus on protocol extensions.


+1

IGPs grew a zoo of horns and bells by now and no'one tells the operators which 
spines are poisonous ;-)

--- tony
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