LGTM, thanks.

—John

> On Aug 19, 2022, at 1:38 AM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> John -
> 
> V3 of the draft has been posted which I believe addresses all of your 
> comments.
> 
> Please let me know if there are remaining issues.
> 
> Note that a few additional format diffs were introduced by the new author 
> tools (not directly by me).
> 
>   Les
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Scudder <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 8:46 AM
>> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: AD review of draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis-02
>> 
>> Hi Les,
>> 
>> Thanks for your prompt reply. My comments in line below.
>> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> [snipped]
>> 
>>> I have a couple of other points I’ll raise here instead of in line.
>>> 
>>> 1. I was a little surprised in the Acknowledgements to see that Les is
>> thanking Les. :-) It’s OK of course if you want to do it that way, but maybe
>> you want to give that section one more look?
>>> 
>>> [LES:] As you no doubt surmised; we simply copied that text verbatim from
>> RFC 5316 – on which I was not an author. That statement is true as regards
>> RFC 5316, which is explicitly mentioned in the paragraph.
>>> I have no particular preference here – if the IETF has a policy on this I am
>> happy to follow it. 😊
>> 
>> [JGS]
>> 
>> There’s no IETF-wide policy, Acks are at the author’s discretion more than
>> any other section. I’m not going to go dig up other bis documents but I seem
>> to recall seeing a format more like this used in others —
>> 
>> ---
>> NN. Acknowledgements
>> 
>> The authors of the present document would like to thank (authors’
>> discretion; if nobody then just leave this out).
>> 
>> RFC 5316 included the following Acknowledgements section:
>> 
>>   The authors would like to thank Adrian Farrel, Jean-Louis Le Roux,
>>   Christian Hopps, Les Ginsberg, and Hannes Gredler for their review
>>   and comments on this document.
>> —
>> 
>> Or sometimes the old acks are not carried forward but left to decorate the
>> original document only, although in this case where you’re doing a tightly-
>> scoped update I can see why you want to retain them.
>> 
>> [/JGS]
>> 
>>> 2. More substantively, the phrase “… when the TE Router ID is needed to
>> reach all routers …” or one like it, occurs many places in the document. I 
>> see
>> that this was part of the base RFC 5306 but it did introduce some confusion
>> for me, because there’s more than one possible reading, including
>>> 
>>> - when the TE Router ID has to be known by all routers
>>> - when in order to establish reachability to all routers, the TE Router ID 
>>> is
>> needed
>>> 
>>> [LES:] I think the latter interpretation is the correct one. And I think the
>> existing text conveys that when the text is “the TE Router ID is needed to
>> reach all routers”. But there are some places where the text is “the TE 
>> Router
>> ID needs to reach all
>>>   Routers” – the use of the active tense (“needs”) is inappropriate.
>>> Would it be acceptable to change only the places where the in appropriate
>> text is used?
>> 
>> [JGS]
>> 
>> That seems fine. I continue to think that the passive voice text is
>> unnecessarily ambiguous too, but it’s at worst a minor impediment to
>> consuming the spec so I’m happy to leave it to your discretion.
>> 
>> [/JGS]
>> 
>>> I leave it to you to decide whether or not to fix this. Clearly RFC 5306 
>>> stood
>> for years with that wording and presumably it didn’t create a problem (or at
>> least nobody raised an erratum) so I’m comfortable with either outcome.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> —John
>>> 
>>> --- draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis-02.txt       2022-08-17 
>>> 14:21:33.000000000 -
>> 0400
>>> +++ draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis-02-jgs-comments.txt  2022-08-17
>> 14:42:45.000000000 -0400
>>> @@ -22,14 +22,15 @@
>>>    This document describes extensions to the Intermediate System to
>>>    Intermediate System (IS-IS) protocol to support Multiprotocol Label
>>>    Switching (MPLS) and Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Traffic Engineering
>>> -   (TE) for multiple Autonomous Systems (ASs).  It defines IS-IS
>>> +   (TE) for multiple Autonomous Systems (ASes).  It defines IS-IS
>>>    extensions for the flooding of TE information about inter-AS links,
>>>    which can be used to perform inter-AS TE path computation.
>>> 
>>>    No support for flooding information from within one AS to another AS
>>>    is proposed or defined in this document.
>>> 
>>> -   This document obsoletes RFC 5316.
>>> +   This document builds on RFC 5316 by adding support for IPv6-only
>>> +   operation.  This document obsoletes RFC 5316.
>>> 
>>> [LES:] Accepted – but I prefer to use a separate paragraph for each
>> sentence.
>>> ??
>> 
>> [JGS]
>> 
>> Totally fine.
>> 
>> [/JGS]
>> 
>> [remainder snipped]
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> —John

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