Hi Les,

Looks good. See one suggestion. 

On 9/24/22, 5:23 PM, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsb...@cisco.com> wrote:

    Alvaro -

    I have given your comments regarding clearer guidance on what value to use 
for router id more thought and tried to address this in V5 of the document 
(recently posted).

    I introduced a new sub-section "Choosing the TE Router ID Value", 
discussing how to choose the value for IPv4 and IPv6.

Consistent with the terminology in RFC 5308, I'd use " IPv6 Interface Address 
TLV" and " non-link-local IPv6 address" in the second paragraph.

Thanks,
Acee

    Subsequent sections now refer to this section.

    Note that V5 also addresses comments from:

    Rob Wilton
    Eric Vyncke
    Lars Eggert
    Paul Wouters

    Let me know if you still have concerns.

        Les

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsb...@cisco.com>
    > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 9:30 PM
    > To: Alvaro Retana <aretana.i...@gmail.com>; The IESG <i...@ietf.org>
    > Cc: draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316...@ietf.org; lsr-cha...@ietf.org; 
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    > cho...@chopps.org; t...@ietf.org
    > Subject: RE: Alvaro Retana's Discuss on 
draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis-04: (with
    > DISCUSS)
    > 
    > Alvaro -
    > 
    > Please see inline.
    > 
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Alvaro Retana via Datatracker <nore...@ietf.org>
    > > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 6:06 AM
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    > > Subject: Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis-04: 
(with
    > > DISCUSS)
    > >
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    > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > DISCUSS:
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    > >
    > > I am balloting DISCUSS because I believe the specification is not clear
    > enough.
    > >
    > > (1) The document recommends (5 separate times) that an ID "SHOULD be
    > > identical
    > > to the value advertised" in an existing TLV.
    > >
    > > If the other TLV is advertised, when is it ok for the values not to be 
the
    > > same?  Why is this action recommended and not required?
    > >
    > [LES:] The new text in Section 3.1 introduces a couple of new (as compared
    > to the original RFC 5316 text) possibilities:
    > 
    > 1)The non-zero value could be identical to what is advertised in TLV 134 
or it
    > could be identical to what is advertised in TLV 132 (IP Interface 
Address).
    > This allows for cases where a Router ID is not configured but a stable 
unique
    > IPv4 address is still advertised for the node.
    > 
    > 2)The Router ID is 0.0.0.0 because we are dealing with an IPv6 only
    > deployment.
    > 
    > Now, I suppose we could say the Router ID field SHOULD/MUST be identical
    > to TLV 134 except when TLV 134 isn't advertised (which is perfectly legal
    > BTW) - but I find such text awkward at best - and (as per my reply to Tom 
et
    > al) a MUST here is overly restrictive.
    > Does this help address your concern?
    > 
    > > Should the receiver of these TLVs take any action if the values are not
    > > identical?
    > 
    > [LES:] No.
    > 
    > >
    > > (2) §3.1: The requirement for the Router ID to be unique within the
    > flooding
    > > scope of the LSP has been removed.
    > 
    > [LES:] We are not changing anything about TLV 134 (AKA TE Router ID ) . 
But
    > given the multiple ways the field in the inter AS TLV can be filled in, 
it no
    > longer seemed appropriate to make this statement.
    > The need for uniqueness of the TE Router ID still exists - but it is the 
province
    > of RFC 5305.
    > 
    >    Les
    > 
    > >
    > > Please help me understand why this change is ok.  If the Router ID can 
be
    > > used
    > > to identify "the router who generates the inter-AS reachability TLV", 
not
    > > requiring unique values seems to go counter to that idea.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >


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