On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 6:22 PM Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Russ!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 4:56 AM
> > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>; Tony Przygienda
> > <[email protected]>
> > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re[2]: [Lsr] Questions on draft-white-lsr-distoptflood
> >
> >
> > >1)You can successfully deploy this algorithm in the presence of nodes
> > >which do NOT support this algorithm. But you cannot successfully deploy
> > >this algorithm in the presence of nodes which enable a different
> > >flooding reduction algorithm.
> >
> > This is correct. There seem to be two sides to this situation, however.
> > Some operators will likely not want to deploy
> > draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding to deploy flooding reduction because it
> > is "something else to break," or it interferes in some way with
> > incremental deployment. I'm sympathetic to this point of view, so I'm a
> > little skittish about making the signaling in dynamic-flooding a
> > MUST--but I'm perfectly happy to make it a MAY, or perhaps a SHOULD, if
> > folks think that is useful.
> >
> [LES:] The question I am raising is whether you think it is important to
> support a means of determining that one and only one flooding reduction
> algorithm is active at a given time.
> This would seem to be desirable and is what
> draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding provides.
>
> If you, as a protocol vendor, want to provide a proprietary way of
> enabling draft-white-lsr-distoptflood and telling your customers "to be
> careful not to enable some other flooding reduction algorithm" that's out
> of scope for this discussion and for the draft. That's a matter between you
> and your customers. And you could still do that while also providing
> support for draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding.
>

Your point, now that you make it more clear, is fair and as I said, I'm
against trying to figure out based on some indication of
reduction/algorithm used and mismatches _what_ to do (i.e. procedures). I'm
not against indicating that flood reduction is used, i.e. this draft
sending a TLV (or maybe some variant of the TLV used in the
dynamic-flooding draft which this draft could refer).  A SHOULD seems fine
here unless you argue eloquently why you think a MUST is needed ;-)

So, yes, if your concern is to detect that _different_ algoirthms/drafts
are used and alert the deployment of the problematic situation, I'm for it

Footnote: I remain still baffled a bit that this is the same problem in my
eyes we have in multi-TLV and there you argued the opposite (i.e. not
sending indication)


--- tny
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