Warren -

Thanx for the thoughtful (and entertaining 😊) review.

I have no objection to adding a forward reference to the "changes" section for 
both this document and draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8920bis.
My only concern is whether this violates the guideline that the "abstract 
should be complete in itself".

   Les

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> Subject: Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis-02: (with
> COMMENT)
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> Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis-02: No Objection
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> 
> I initially wrote this up as a DISCUSS position, but made it NoObjection
> instead because it didn't strictly fit the DISCUSS criteria -- that said, I
> *do* think that it is important and would really appreciate it if you'd
> strongly consider addressing it (it's also IMO a trivial update!).
> 
> I reviewed this document on a plane, and had a bunch of comments... but it
> was
> only when I came to ballot that and I saw John Scudder's note of "Note that
> this document is a tightly-scoped update to RFC 8919. Prudent reviewers will
> focus on the diff vs. 8919 [1], and *not* try to do a detailed/full document
> review." - it would have been great to know that before reading the
> document!
> 
> Knowing what has changed in a -bis is really important - it lets the reader
> know if they actually have to bother reading the new document. This
> information
> *does* exist in this document, but it is buried in the RFC equivalent of the
> bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on
> the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard.” (Section 9, between Security
> Considerations and References)
> 
> Normally, in an "Updates" document we'd say (in the Abstract) something like
> "This document updates RFC 8919 by x and y and z". This is somewhat harder
> to
> do in a grammatically correct manner with Obsoletes, but perhaps something
> like: "This document obsoletes RFC 8919; the changes are documented in
> Section
> 9"? (I'm planning on balloting the same on the OSPF version of this doc).
> 
> 

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