Peter,

Thanks for your answer.
Please see inline [Bruno]
 
 
> From: Peter Psenak <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 6:05 PM
> 
> Bruno,
> 
> On 25/07/2023 14:39, [email protected] wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > With RC5305, in IS-IS we can advertise two states for a prefix IP1:
> > 
> >   * Positive reachability (state “1”), by advertising IP1 in TLV 135
> >     with a metric lower than 0xFE000000
> >   * No reachability (state “0”) by either:
> >       o Not advertising IP1 in TLV 135
> >       o Advertising IP1 in TLV 135with a metric larger than 0xFE000000
> 
> right, one being implicit the other one explicit.
> 
> > 
> > For unreachable prefix announcement, we need to advertise a new state: 
> > negative reachability (state “-1”) because advertising no reachability 
> > (state “0”) is not enough since there is a covering prefix advertised.
> > 
> > Hence we need a new signaling.
> > 
> > draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce is proposing to advertise 
> > IP1 unreachability by advertising IP in TLV 135 with a metric larger 
> > than 0xFE000000.
> > 
> > This does not work as this signal is already defined to advertise state 
> > “0” (no reachability) while we want to advertise negative reachability 
> > (state “-1”): one can’t signal two different states with a single signal.
> > 
> > This seems easy to fix in the last version of the draft: one just have 
> > to signal state “-1” with the flags already defined and advertised.
> > 
> > In short, negative reachability would be signal by advertising IP1 in 
> > TLV 135with a metric larger than 0xFE000000 and flag U (Unreachable 
> > Prefix) or UP (Unreachable Planned Prefix) set.
> 
> that is exactly what the draft describes. I'm not sure what is your point.
> 
> > 
> > On the receiving side, state “-1” is learned from the reception of 
> > either flag.
> > 
> > This is a very simple change, and it would address my concern.
> > 
> > Can this be done?
> 
> I'm not sure what exactly are you asking for as the draft is already 
> describing what you are asking for.

[Bruno] Good if this is what is meant in the draft and if this is only 
misunderstanding.
To be specific, I'm asking about the following changes for IS-IS (please feel 
free to reformulate, OSPF is up to you)

§5.4
OLD: 
U-Flag and UP-Flag are optional flags that have informative character. 
Treatment of these flags on the receiver is optional and the usage of them is 
outside of scope of this document.

NEW: 
The setting of the U-Flag or the UP-Flag signals that the prefix is 
unreachable. They constitute the UPA signals.

§5
"Even though in all cases the treatment of such metric, or NU-bit, is specified 
for IS-IS, OSPF and OSPFv3, having an explicit way to signal that the prefix 
was advertised in order to signal unreachability is useful to distinguish it 
from other cases where the prefix with such metric is advertised."
:s/useful/required

§Abstract
OLD:  This document describes how to use existing protocol mechanisms in IS-IS 
and OSPF to advertise such prefix reachability loss.
NEW: This document defines two new flags in IS-IS and OSPF to advertise such  
prefix reachability loss. In order to support incremental deployment, such 
advertisement use a high metric value already having special meaning of OSPF 
and IS-IS.

§1
OLD:  This document describes how the use of existing protocol mechanisms can 
support the necessary functionality without the need for any protocol 
extensions. The functionality being described is called Unreachable Prefix 
Announcement (UPA).
NEW: This document defines two new flags in IS-IS and OSPF to the necessary 
functionality without the need for any protocol extensions. The functionality 
being described is called Unreachable Prefix Announcement (UPA). 

Thank you,
Regards,
--Bruno

> > 
> > The drawback is that the existing pre-standard implementation would need 
> > to be updated. But that’s the rule for a pre-standard implementation.
> 
> not really, the handling of the metric higher that 0xFE000000 is already 
> defined in the existing spec.
> 
> regards,
> Peter
> 
> > 
> > The faster we do the change, the easier it is, especially for other 
> > implementations.
> > 
> > --Bruno
> > 
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