Hi Yifan Wang,
thank you for the clarification on the packet loss measurement. I agree
that TWAMP/TWAMP-Lite could be used to measure packet loss using synthetic
packets. I would note that STAMP (RFC 8762
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8762/>) has all the functionality of
TWAMP. Also, the Direct measurement extension of STAMP (RFC 8972
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8972/>) can measure data traffic loss
using operator-defined "in-profile" characteristics of the monitored flow.

Regards,
Greg

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 1:08 PM wangyifan (AI) <wangyifan82=
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the comments.
>
>
>
> In the afternoon presentation I mainly introduce the path computation
> method based on link loss.
>
>
>
> Here are the consideration of how packet loss on a link is measured:
>
>
>
> 1.     The packet loss rate is measured based on the TWAMP or TWAMP
> LIGHT. It doesn’t depend on the real traffic.
>
> 2.     The TWAMP session can be deployed to measure the packet loss rate
> before the flexible algorithm is configured. Consequently the packet loss
> caused by real traffic tests can be prevented.
>
> 3.     The measured packet loss rate can be suppressed to prevent
> frequent traffic switching caused by link loss changes.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Yifan Wang.
>
>
>
> *发件人:* Lsr <[email protected]> *代表 *Alexander Vainshtein
> *发送时间:* 2023年11月6日 18:15
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> *抄送:* [email protected]; Nitsan Dolev <[email protected]>
> *主题:* [Lsr] My comment on
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wang-lsr-flex-algo-link-loss-00
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Just repeating my comment at the mike:
>
>
>
> The draft does not explain how packet loss on a link is measured.
>
>
>
> If this measurement is based on real traffic, excluding the link from the
> topology for certain flexible algorithms may result in the packet loss
> going down and the link becoming eligible for traffic again.
>
>
>
> For this scheme to work, link loss measurement should be done in a way
> that does not depend on the amount of customer traffic crossing the link.
>
>
>
> I also think that, even with such a scheme, some kind of hysteresis
> mechanism is required to prevent link being frequently excluded and
> admitted back if the packet loss rate fluctuates around the threshold level,
>
>
>
>
>
> My 2c,
>
> Sasha
>
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