Hi, Peter:

I must remind you that the following things:

1) The newly defined “U/UP flags” MUST be removed, as you declared they are trying to “give the reason of unreachable”, which is not suitable for IGP protocol, and also not enough to describe various reasons for the unreachability.

2) Remove the “partition” related description. Current contents doesn’t solve the problem, no useful information provided to the reader.

3)  Remove the control knob considerations on the ABR. Because they are first provided by other proposal, and current contents covers only part of them.

After the above adjustments, there will be nothing needs to be standardized, the document should be changed to “Information Track”.


Aijun Wang
China Telecom

On Apr 30, 2025, at 23:09, Peter Psenak <[email protected]> wrote:


Robert,

On 30/04/2025 17:02, Robert Raszuk wrote:

Indeed we agreed on the list but I never noticed text being added to address it into section 4. In -04 it is not there.

we have not added it yet, but we agreed I would. I will do when the next version is pushed, but wanted to wait for some more comments to include.

thanks,
Peter


Thx,
R.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 4:59 PM Acee Lindem <[email protected]> wrote:
To cover the make-before-break situation you and Peter discussed in this thread.

>>
>> If there are no alternate paths I would rather keep one installed active - for example to address the case where one ABR can still reach egress PE and the other one generated UPA.
>>

Thanks,
Acee

> On Apr 30, 2025, at 10:57 AM, Robert Raszuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Which text ?
>
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-03&url2=draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04&difftype=--html
>
> Thx,
> R.
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 4:52 PM Acee Lindem <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> I guess you are now fine with the draft with this text. 
>
> Thanks,
> Acee
>
> > On Apr 23, 2025, at 10:51 AM, Robert Raszuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > ok, I'm fine adding some text for your case.
> >
> > Thx Peter !
> >
> > It is not "my use case" but ability to trigger UPA for make-before-break which I think always is rather a good thing.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > R.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 4:40 PM Peter Psenak <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > On 23/04/2025 16:35, Robert Raszuk wrote:
> >> Hi Peter,
> >>> If the egress PE is the only BGP NH, then reacting to max-metric or OL-bit set would make some BGP destinations unreachable.
> >>
> >> Well this entirely depends on how one reacts on UPA if UPA is signalling the only one left BGP path/NH as down irrespective of the trigger. Does it stop the service to the destination or not ...
> >>
> >> If there are alternate paths the best path can install new next hop.
> >>
> >> If there are no alternate paths I would rather keep one installed active - for example to address the case where one ABR can still reach egress PE and the other one generated UPA.
> >>
> >>> So why not trigger UPA in such cases to hint him to switch to alternate next hops if available ?
> >> I'm not saying it can not be done. The implementation can chose to advertise the UPA for the summary component prefix if the such prefix metric in the source area/domain crosses certain value or if the prefix originator is overloaded.
> >> But this would make it not compliant with current text in section 4 which was the main point of my question. So why not leave the door a bit open for it in the spec ?
> > ok, I'm fine adding some text for your case.
> > thanks,
> > Peter
> >
> >>
> >> Thx,
> >> R.
> >
>


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