Hi,
So, the answer is no?  Is this answer definitive?
As I indicated, I think some sort of capability along these lines would be 
useful and important.
Thanks,
John
    On Thursday, September 10, 2026 at 12:11:51 PM PDT, Joel Halpern 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
   
You seem to be asking about a problem that the draft is not trying to address.
 
Yours,
 
Joel
 On 9/10/2026 1:40 PM, John Drake wrote:
  
  Hi, 
  I don't think it's sufficient to locally decide at a particular point in time 
whether to power on or off a link based upon its utilization. 
  So, the first question is whether, at a particular point in time, it is 
possible to pre-empt particular LSPs, in such a way that their traffic is not 
interrupted, while not pre-empting other LSPs?  And adjust the link's power 
status accordingly? 
  The second question is whether it is poosible to anticipate the advent if 
traffic on a given link so that its is fully powered on before the traffic 
arrives. 
  Thanks, 
  John 
      On Thursday, September 10, 2026 at 07:18:55 AM PDT, Tony Li 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
  
     
  Hi John, 
  I’m quite sure he did.  Which part did you not understand? 
  Tony 
 
 
  On Sep 10, 2026, at 7:05 AM, John Drake <[email protected]> 
wrote: 
    Hi, 
  I'm not sure you answered my questions. 
  Thanks, 
  John 
      On Thursday, September 10, 2026 at 05:37:26 AM PDT, Barth, Colby 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
  
      Inline <cB> 
   -- Colby 
    
     From: John Drake <[email protected]>
 Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2026 at 3:24 PM
 To: TEAS WG <[email protected]>; lsr <[email protected]>; Bonica, Ron 
<[email protected]>
 Subject: [Teas] Re: [Lsr] Fw: I-D Action: draft-many-teas-power-steering-02.txt
 
       Ron,  
   I'm sure I missed it so I apologize in advance, but how do you deal with a 
link which should be powered off but which can't be due to the presence on LSPs 
which should be re-routed, or a link which appears to be ready to power off but 
which shouldn't be because the LSPs on it are crucial and which can't be 
rerouted?  
   <cb> If a link is both power-save-capable and there are currently no LSPs 
traversing it, then it is a candidate to be put to power-sleep.  A node may 
make a local decision to put a "link to sleep" in coordination with the node on 
the other end.  This is a function of the sleep management component that Ron 
has described and is beyond the scope of this document.   
   Or, how do you power on a link in anticipation of a huge traffic surge which 
should be non-disruptively handled?  
   <cb> Waking up a link can be triggered by an ingress node if it fails to 
find a path for a new bandwidth request.  
   —Colby  
   Thanks,  
   John  
    On Wednesday, September 9, 2026 at 06:58:41 AM PDT, Bonica, Ron 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
   
    Folks,  
   Many of the comments regarding draft-many-lsr-power-groups are resolved in 
this teas document. So, I am informing LSR and TEAS that this new version has 
been posted.  
                                                                                
                             Ron 
   
     From: [email protected]<[email protected]>
 Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2026 9:51 AM
 To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
 Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
 Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-many-teas-power-steering-02.txt  
  Internet-Draft draft-many-teas-power-steering-02.txt is now available. It is a
 work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling (TEAS) WG of
 the IETF.
 
    Title:   A Power Conserving Path Placement Strategy (PCPPS)
    Authors: Colby Barth
             Tony Li
             Vishnu Pavan Beeram
             Ron Bonica
    Name:    draft-many-teas-power-steering-02.txt
    Pages:   13
    Dates:   2026-09-09
 
 Abstract:
 
    This document introduces a Power Conserving Path Placement Strategy
    (PCPPS).  During periods of low demand, PCPPS concentrates traffic
    onto a small set of network resources.  This causes other network
    resources to become idle or nearly idle.  When demand increases,
    PCPPS redistributes traffic as required.
 
 The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-many-teas-power-steering/
 
 There is also an HTML version available at:
 https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-many-teas-power-steering-02.html
 
 A diff from the previous version is available at:
 https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-many-teas-power-steering-02
 
 Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
 
 
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