On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:45 PM, Narayan Desai wrote:
"Andrew" == Andrew Hume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andrew> narayan, paul, brandon i am puzzled by this discussion. the
Andrew> task narayan brings up, that of staging a new service, seems
Andrew> completely independent of the issues around version
Andrew> control. and conflating the two seems confusing.
Andrew> i think what narayan wants, and the task requires, is
Andrew> a way of referring to various cluster properties, namely a)
Andrew> there exists a functioning new ntp server b) all nodes use
Andrew> the new ntp server c) the node with the old ntp server has
Andrew> that old server deleted
I think that I see the source of some of this confusion. I have much
more modest goals. I am just trying to build reasonable configuration
state feedback into the system. All I really want to be able to probe
is if a set of clients have moved into the proper configuration
state.
While the high-level goals would be nicer, I tend to focus on
deployment mechanics because they are easier to work with IMO.
with all due respect, this attitude of "i'll do teh config magic because
its easier" rather than pursuing doing what the user actually wants,
contributes greatly to the marginality of our pursuits here.
but i'm getting tired and crabby. i'll defer further comment til i'm
rested.
goodnight,
andrew
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