>>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Hume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  Andrew> polemics and homilies aside, we need a model of how things
  Andrew> behave, and how we can test for success and failure. and i
  Andrew> think the 90/10 rule really works here; some stuff will
  Andrew> nearly always have to be done manually, but lets get rolling
  Andrew> on the easier 90%.

I couldn't agree more. I am actually in the process of adding some
rather (architecturally) ugly mechanisms into bcfg to help in
determining what is actually working on systems.
 -nld
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