Hi,
I talked to Dan Stanzione in ASU about their long range IB switches. Apparently the product is close to becoming a real product, sounds like they are beta testing as have units 0 and 1 !! They are using it for 1.5 miles at 10Gb presently and seeing latency <12us and feels theoretically there is no distance limit. On my next trip to the US I would like to visit them. Pricing hasn't been nailed down completely but he thinks $15K per unit should get us in the ballpark. Given that, ~$60K (4 units) for a fully redundant LSST data link seems the perfect solution, should it be in Chile. Obsedian are sending me a real quote soon, I guess they are still finalising it thus the tardiness. On the SPM side you would need something like a Cisco ONS switch to push IP data down the fibre. The Longbow are not recommended for WAN IP switched circuits. So I think you would be looking at ~$300K for a 10Gb dwdm piece of hardware, less for 1Gb ccts but as the circuit is going to be regened then you may as well go the 1 X 10Gb option, provided the link provides that OC-192 bandwidth. And then of course you need spares. Seems to me its going to be a tremendous cost to install the regened cct across Baja and up the west coast, in wild country. Just hope they are serious and the cost "guaranteed" to LSST.

In my mind the Chile option is best as we have control of the fibre and the end equipment, and get what we need at a one time cost. (But I may be biased)! There may also be ways to cut the cost of the fibre installation, like getting a local Telecom to share and/or having AOSS install the cable from Penyon to the road (~20Km) as they are our posts already erected for power use. Considering that we should, from above, have a 10Gb pair for LSST then we could scale up pairs for Gemini, SOAR and CTIO keeping them all separate, and still end up with a fibre bundle of <20 which is comfortably spliceable in the rare event of a cut. In fact given the price of the WAN longbow I would be all for, converting Tololo and SOAR to IB networks. HCA prices should be down to some acceptable level by 2010. <$200. Melanox is revising the cost every quarter.
ron
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