Keywords: DataAccWG

Attendees: Maria, Ani, Kem, Arun, Jacek


database size estimate [Kem]
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detection database for stars is dramatically underestimated:
 - in particular number of objects / square deg
 - it should be ~factor of 10 larger: ~10^6 stellar detections
   per field on average
 - have ~2000 observations per night, so 15 TB per DR


A couple of things missing: proper motion, errors,
"u" as filter (umag, uerr)


source table does not have colors


every object in temp db should also be in deep db
 - this is in particular important when temp db gets large
 - not reflected in the spreadsheet


temporal db is a factor of 30 underestimated or more


source table looks a lot like what we have in sdss
 - but we need that for each color


Kem will summarize all his findings/concerns in an email


Kem & Jacek will work on the spreadsheet tomorrow



Hypothetical end user access workload
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"200 low volume queries"
 - will assume that
    - each query goes over 10 million objects
    - each query will retrieve 1 Gbyte
 - not sure if we should assume that each query sees speed of 100Mbps
   - will have to check with Tim



How to convert 1 degree^2 of image archive to number of files
or megabytes?
  - 3.5 FOV & 201 ccd --> 201/3.5 = ~57 files, file size = data
   from one ccd


Should we assume 50-50 split: for the 200 low volume queries?
 - 100 queries over catalog and 100 queries over image archive
  --> not sure, need to check with Tim


10 high volume queries
 - "query against stored and derived metadata"
 - the 200-low-volume-queries section talk about "stored metadata" only
 - what is the difference?
   - not sure, need to check with Tim


need real queries
 - Kem promised to identified several most important queries
 - don't want to blindly analyze all sdss queries


Maria suggests to look at outreach document
 - docushare 1692, 1693


Will continue discussion this Friday at 11:00 AM PDT

Thanks,
Jacek





Jacek Becla wrote:
Keywords: DataAccWG

Hi,

We will have a Database telecon tomorrow at 11:00 PST.

Phone number: 866 330 1200
passcode: 300 2363

The agenda: we will continue discussion
about "Hypothetical end user access workload".

I expect it'll be relatively short meeting,
and we will continue discussion on Friday

Jacek
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