Hi,

probably I'm not the best to answer the question but I will give it a shot

considering FOV ~ 3.16 x 3.16 deg^2 one of those chunks 3.16*60 /16 ~ 12
arcminutes .... considering  

"Barnard's star has the largest proper motion of all stars, moving at 10.3 
seconds of arc per year" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_motion

12 arcminutes would be MORE than enough!!!!  

In any case, I think it is unnecesary such a huge buffer because among
other things you could not afford a match of 12 arcminutes radius, at
least not an all-to-all. The question is .. what should the biggest search
radius used in the cross-match? It should be less than 10 sigma (sigma = 
astrometric precission)

Finally, I don't see a huge benefit in using this chunking 16x16. It 
seems to me that a simple zoneID, RA index would help more efficiently to 
reduce the reads and do the cross-match.

Cheers

Maria

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Jacek Becla wrote:

> 
> Yes, I think the fast moving objects will be kept in a separate
> catalog (called Orbit Catalog I think), and the issue I am raising
> is for slow moving objects. So the question is whether slowly moving
> object can move more than one chunk per night?



 
> thanks,
> Jacek
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Serge Monkewitz wrote:
> > Kem - I just assumed there was a seperate table for moving objects so 
> > this is good to hear, but ... what about really slow movers?  Will the 
> > MOP be able to detect and track an object that crosses a chunk over the 
> > course of 6 months? 1yr? Put another way, do we need to assume some kind 
> > of small but still significant (over the course of a release cycle) 
> > velocity for objects in the main object table (especially leading up to 
> > DR1 since the deep/moving pipelines won't have had very much time to 
> > discover/tell eachother about such objects)?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Serge
> > 
> > On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:43:06 -0800, Kem Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Jacek,
> >>
> >> Your partitioning makes perfect sense, but there will be a few objects
> >> which move more than quite a bit more than 1 chunk per night.   But, I
> >> think we were going to be keeping the moving obectsd in a separate table,
> >> for this, as well as other, reasons.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >>
> >> Kem
> >>
> >>> Keywords: DataAccWG
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> Here is a brand new suggestion how to partition Object table
> >>> for the nightly processing use case:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~becla/tmp/objectTablePartitioningAtBase.doc 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hope we will have time to talk about it during the telecon tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> Jacek
> > 
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