I think people still don't understand what risk surfaces are actually worth attacking - and they latch onto encryption without any of the other OPSEC considerations, side-channel attacks on the information and groups being protected, etc.
This XKCD still applies: https://xkcd.com/538/ The problem is the companies and politics still should _strive_ for the best in each applicable area but people are deluding themselves when they consider a Nation State threat model as their baseline. -Ali On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 2:38 PM Yosem Companys <[email protected]> wrote: > Alex Nicholson 10:43 AM > Curious what others think about this... this past week @Jason Calacanis ( > launch.co) talked about the need for all-user end-to-end encryption on > services like Zoom in China, and basically anyone operating in or through > China, because of the Chinese govt’s likelihood of intercepting and/or > interfering with communications as it likes. However, I would argue that > the conversation is severely under-estimating the sophistication of the > Chinese govt. The US’s NSA can crack any encryption in the world and listen > to any communications it wants. Why would we think China’s version of the > NSA is any less sophisticated? Commercial encryption prevents interception > by hackers and criminals, low-level operations without the budgets or > resources of state actors. The intelligence services of major world powers > have the skills and tools to crack any company’s best attempt at > encryption. So what does it matter if a service like Zoom or anything > touching China is encrypted or not? If it touches Chinese soil, fibers, or > airspace, it can be read by their govt. If it’s encrypted, it prob won’t > be read by criminals and civilian hackers only. Thoughts? > > [image: upload image] > Yosem Companys > President and CEO > Techlantis > M: (650) 796-1205 > A: 2225 East Bayshore Road, Suite 200, Palo Alto, CA 94303 > W: www.techlantis.com > <https://links99.mixmaxusercontent.com/5e196044087550002eab97f3/l/ANLr70zlGhiU5scet?messageId=CD3TDp18V4pc1gn07&rn=gIUxkI&re=IyZy9mLoNWZ052bpRXYyVmYpxmLzR3cpxGQ0xmI&sc=false> > E: [email protected] > <https://links97.mixmaxusercontent.com/5e196044087550002eab97f3/l/pdrrzjQFwlJEHwdO5?messageId=CD3TDp18V4pc1gn07&rn=gIUxkI&re=IyZy9mLoNWZ052bpRXYyVmYpxmLzR3cpxGQ0xmI&sc=false> > [image: facebook] > <https://links96.mixmaxusercontent.com/5e196044087550002eab97f3/l/HuPnDISvAWgPk9kqn?messageId=CD3TDp18V4pc1gn07&rn=gIUxkI&re=IyZy9mLoNWZ052bpRXYyVmYpxmLzR3cpxGQ0xmI&sc=false>[image: > twitter] > <https://links94.mixmaxusercontent.com/5e196044087550002eab97f3/l/SCxyGnQdus25rCBum?messageId=CD3TDp18V4pc1gn07&rn=gIUxkI&re=IyZy9mLoNWZ052bpRXYyVmYpxmLzR3cpxGQ0xmI&sc=false>[image: > linkedin] > <https://links91.mixmaxusercontent.com/5e196044087550002eab97f3/l/BAlwzljNbB65avty2?messageId=CD3TDp18V4pc1gn07&rn=gIUxkI&re=IyZy9mLoNWZ052bpRXYyVmYpxmLzR3cpxGQ0xmI&sc=false>[image: > instagram] > <https://links97.mixmaxusercontent.com/5e196044087550002eab97f3/l/r8igLdON1tGF85FM3?messageId=CD3TDp18V4pc1gn07&rn=gIUxkI&re=IyZy9mLoNWZ052bpRXYyVmYpxmLzR3cpxGQ0xmI&sc=false> > > To schedule an appointment with me, please visit > https://calendly.com/yosem > <https://links93.mixmaxusercontent.com/5e196044087550002eab97f3/l/FzU02yP9cP71DpqdV?messageId=CD3TDp18V4pc1gn07&rn=gIUxkI&re=IyZy9mLoNWZ052bpRXYyVmYpxmLzR3cpxGQ0xmI&sc=false> > . > > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable from any major > commercial search engine. Violations of list guidelines will get you > moderated: https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/lt. Unsubscribe, > change to digest mode, or change password by emailing > [email protected].
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