On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 18:33 +0530, Subrata Modak wrote:
> Hi Nathan,
> 
> On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 09:39 -0400, Nathan Straz wrote:
> > On Aug 31 00:24, Subrata Modak wrote:
> > > What about the GFS2 tests? You would know exactly whether they can be
> > > integrated inside LTP and to what proportion.
> > 
> > We are in the process of open sourcing some of the tools we use in our
> > GFS/GFS2/Cluster test suites.  I'm trying to get some useful man pages
> > done, then I will be making them available via Fedora People or 
> 
> Good to know that.
> 
> > Fedora Hosted.  I will be sure to send the announcement to this list.
> > 
> 
> That will be wonderful.
> 
> > Subrata, I was very impressed with the way you systematically asked for
> > tests from the major contributors to 2.6.26.  I think that integrating
> > test cases which wouldn't otherwise have a home is a priority for LTP.
> 
> Yes, you are correct. And not only that, integrating & automating all
> those tests which sit on developers desktop, is a big priority. And if
> developers are willing, then, request them to add some more tests for
> their domain.
> 
> > 
> > I don't think it is right to integrate every test suite into LTP.  I'm
> > worried that merging actively maintained test suites will cause a fork
> > in the test suite and headaches for both LTP and upstream.  I'm worried
> > that LTP will grow too large and these suites will get lost in the blob.
> > I'm worried that users of LTP will run the easy stuff, but not dig deep
> > enough to try running the embedded suites in new and interesting ways.
> > I don't want the only purpose of LTP to be to push a button and get a
> > pass or fail result.
> > 
> > I don't think it's right to merge in the XFS or OCFS2 suites into LTP.
> > I don't want to merge the tools we've written into LTP either.  They
> > will be available as separate packages and you're welcome to depend on
> > them, but I don't want to maintain the projects in two places.
> 
> Yes, what i am looking at is:
> 1) Not maintain everything from LTP and in it´s original place as well.
> If even something is maintained in a different place, we should have the
> updated information and the suite available through LTP. Just to cite an
> example, the pounder21, open_posix, open_hpi, etc are maintained in
> different places, but the updated ones are also available through LTP.
> And the most recent example being Paul Moore´s permission to include
> AUDIT tests through LTP. So, AUDIT tests will have a different
> maintenance tree/project, but i will be tracking their releases. When i
> release LTP at month end, i can also include it´s release on the similar
> lines to open_hpi. The basic IDEA is to create a place where users can
> find most of Linux kernel testing parameters in a common place. So, even
> if the FS tests suite like the XFS, OCFS, GFS is maintained separately,
> i would like to provide integrated information about them to LTP
> community. If you feel that LTP will be growing much bigger, then we can
> accommodate them like the open_posix and open_hpi, instead of actually
> putting them under ltp/testcases/kernel/fs.

And, i have a typical example to give. The open_posix is no longer being
maintained. But, people keep sending patches to open_posix though they
never get accepted. Since, LTP has been including open_posix for long,
we do not let these patches go away. We instead merge it in our
open_posix subtree inside LTP. So, i would be happy if people would like
to move their kernel testing stuff inside LTP. And in other case also, i
would be happy to synchronize the LTP community with their developments
as well.

Regards--
Subrata

> 
> Let me know your thoughts on this.
> 
> Regards--
> Subrata
> 
> > 
> > Nate


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