On Friday 27 February 2009 22:11:07 Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:03:30PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Friday 27 February 2009 21:05:32 Michael Kerrisk wrote: > > > On 2/27/09, Subrata Modak <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The Linux Test project has been in existence for many years, and, the > > > > benefits of this Project has been well established. However, due to > > > > several reasons the developers/stakeholders of this project has never > > > > meet face to face. Hence, i would like to propose a Mini Summit for > > > > LTP on the sidelines of the OLS 2009, scheduled to be held at > > > > Montreal, Canada, July 13th-17th, 2009 > > > > (http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2009/). > > > > > > > > The proposal for mini summit has been accepted in principle by the > > > > OLS committee. Since, there are no specific summit/meet/conference > > > > for LTP developers, this is a very good opportunity for LTP > > > > developers to meet side-by-side the OLS, as many of them will be > > > > coming to attend/present in the OLS. We can meet and discuss various > > > > issues relating to LTP in the same meet, some of them being: > > > > > > > > i) Presentation/discussion by developers/testers/users on various > > > > issues on test infrastructure/environment/test cases. Here we plan to > > > > abreast ourselves with several of such issues, and, somebody can take > > > > the responsibility for those line item(s), > > > > ii) Presentation/discussion by developers/testers/users on what they > > > > contributed to LTP, and, what they plan to do in near/far future, > > > > iii) Presentation/discussion by Maintainer of the present situation > > > > of LTP, and, what he might expect from the community to take this > > > > forward, iv) Presentation/discussion by Maintainer on how to increase > > > > LTP penetration in other areas (archs, etc) of Linux testing, like > > > > the Z-linux, embedded hardware, etc, > > > > v) How best to leverage on Project Collaboration like Crackerjack to > > > > LTP porting of tests, > > > > vi) Other proposals(if any) from the community is also to be > > > > discussed. > > > > > > > > I have discussed this with Andrew J Hutton of OLS committee. He has > > > > agreed in principle to lend us a room/accessories to conduct the Mini > > > > Summit, provided there are enough attendance of a minimum of 10 > > > > people. > > > > > > > > If all/some of you agree and feel that it would be great for all of > > > > us to meet, and we have the enough nos. i can talk to Andrew to > > > > confirm a berth for us. > > > > > > > > Please feel free to propose new agenda and comment on the proposed > > > > agenda. > > > > > > This is a little OT, but I wonder: might this not be better targeted > > > at the Plumbers Conference in Portland? It's very much an ecosystem > > > topic, which I imagine would be a good fit (see > > > http://lwn.net/Articles/319215/ ). Assuming it was a fit, then there > > > could actually be a microconf track devoted to the topic. Since > > > Plumbers is explicitly a developer oriented conference, and is > > > doubling up with LinuxCon, it might be that more potential interested > > > parties are at that conference than OLS. (Speaking personally at > > > least, if I manage to make it to just one of these, then Plumbers is > > > probably the more likely of the two.) > > > > i'm not so sure ... i see LTP targeting more the low level libc/kernel > > interface. the plumbers sit on top of that and LTP doesnt really target > > the plumbing layer ... > > Um, the "plumbers" include the libc / kernel developers, so I think that > is a direct target audience :)
like i said, i'm *not* saying both cannot be done. i just think the LS makes more sense if there's only going to be one. but maybe i view plumbers as sitting higher up the stack than other people (and reality :p). plus, Subrata is doing the hard work ... i'm the lazy one. -mike
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