Well then if you can compare Windows Managers (WMs) to desktop systems then why not compare KDEwm to ICEwm?
Let me tell you something, without the underlying desktop componant architecture (and applications that use it), you will use vastly more system resources as you add simultaneous users and applications. KDE and GNOME tend to be slow on most major distrobutions because the distrobutions are configuring them in a very heavy manner. The same number of things configured without a desktop system would be completely unthinkable in terms of performance. Try Caldera's 3.1 desktop to illustrate how fast KDE can be, if better refined. Red Hat, Mandrake, and SuSE stuff as much flashy garbage in their distrobutions as they can so they can make money on CD sales.....everyone upgrading to see all the new things. Caldera's focus is on business systems and is therefore the only refined distrobution I am aware of. They do not focus of stuffing as much on a CD as possible and quick upgrades for CD sales.. Unfortunately, their model isn't as profitable in the short run. Most impression is, probably a lot of you who are advocating ICEwm as a "replacement" for KDE or GNOME are actually using both desktop systems and not realizing it. You can get similar performance just by optimizing all the stuff that gets loaded with you default desktops. The KWM (KDE's default Window Manager) by itself is in fact very fast, I'd even think it might be faster than ICEwm. Or, try replacing KWM with ICEwm and then see if KDE runs any faster or slower? What I'm saying is, you are blaming the wrong thing for you desktop's slow performance. I gaurantee it. --Matthew On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Michael H. Collins wrote: > I don't need to add anything to this except to say that this is my > experience in the real world too. Lusers don't have a clue and don't > care anyway so why give em enough rope to hang themselvs and me too in > the process. > > Jim McQuillan wrote: > > > I disagree. > > > > I think that comparing Icewm against KDE and Gnome makes alot > > of sense. > > > > After all, the user doesn't have a clue about the differences > > between window managers and desktop systems. > > > > All they need to do is get their jobs done, whether that is > > pounding transactions into a database, writing letters with a > > > -- > Michael H. Collins http://www.linuxlink.com > Linux Streaming Radio http://www.kpig.com > Penguins are so sensitive. Lyle Lovett > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss > For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.openprojects.net > _____________________________________________________________________ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.openprojects.net
