Phil,

No apology necessary.

This stuff can get down right confusing sometimes.

Thanks for the input on the 'SIS' vs 'sis'.  That is
because with XFree86 4.x, you are specifying a module,
rather than an Xserver.  All of the X4 modules are named
with lowercase names.

With LTSP 3.0, there are basically 3 types of values
for the XSERVER parameter.  They are:

auto       This tells the rc.local script to attempt to
           automatically determine which Xserver or module
           to use.  It does this by looking at the entries
           in the /proc/bus/pci/devices file, and matching
           that against what is in the 
           /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/vidlist file.

XF86_XXXX  If the value starts with 'XF86_', then it is
           assumed to be a XFree86 version 3.3.6 Xserver,
           so it looks in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/X11R6/bin

sis        Or, any other entry not starting with XF86_.
           This is assumed to be a XFree86 4.1 module
           name, in which case an Xserver named 'XFree86'
           is executed, and a module called 'sis_drv.o'
           is loaded.  The modules are in
           /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers

All of the XFree86 4.1 modules are included in the
ltsp_x_core package.  The XFree86 3.3.6 Xservers are
separate packages.

Hope that helps,

Jim McQuillan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Philip A. Roa wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> Thanks Jim for your inputs. 
> 
> >I'm rather puzzled why the SVGA server from the XFree86 site
> >works fine with the SIS 6202 chipset, and my Xserver doesn't.
> >I grab the sources directly from ftp.xfree86.org, and I applied
> >the simple patch for the read-only root fs.  Other than that,
> >they should be identical.
> 
> **** Your right. So sorry there. I made a mistake in reporting using the XF86_SVGA 
>server.  
> My SIS6202 card was detected, yes, but the server barked with the following message 
>(due to a wrong 
> modeline...my fault) 
> 
> -------------------- screen ----
>  using XFree86 SIS driver version 3.0.0
> 
> : (snip)
> 
> (- -) SVGA: Chipset: sis 86C202
> 
> : (snip)
> 
> Fatal Error
> no valid modes found
> -------------------- screen ----
> 
> Specifying the right modeline solved the problem.
> 
> **** On the other hand, For the newer X Server binary i got the following:
> 
> -------------------- screen ----
> : (snip)
> ERROR: Autoprobe of the video card failed!
>                   you need to specify the proper X Server in the lts.conf
> -------------------- screen ----
> 
> This time with: XSERVER=sis  (in lts.conf) -->{note: all caps SIS, doesn't work 
>here} i got:
> 
> -------------------- screen ----
> : (snip)
> (I I) SIS: driver for SiS Chipset
> SIS5597, SIS5598, SIS530, SIS6326, SIS300, SIS630, SIS540
> (EE) no devices detected
> 
> Fatal server error
> no screens found
> -------------------- screen ----
> 
> Shows (Uunfortunately) that SIS 6202 is not in the list for version X 4+. 
> 
> Just to set the record straight.  Thanks Jim (and for all the added info) . I guess 
>setting up these babies 
> [clients] can get confusing sometimes.  My apologies.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> phil
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quoted last 2/19/02 10:56:38 AM as follows:
> >
> >Phil,
> >
> >#1) With older versions of LTSP (2.08 and older), we needed special
> >    X servers that had a patch applied to allow them to work
> >    properly in a read-only root filesystem.
> >
> >    Since v2.09, we use devfs for the /dev directory, which
> >    means that we can use the standard Xservers directly from
> >    the XFree86 web site.
> >
> >    So yes, it is completely safe to use a non-ltsp Xserver.
> >
> >#2) The proper way, I suppose, is to just grab an Xserver
> >    from another site or distro and drop it into the
> >    /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/X11R6/bin directory.  That is, for
> >    version 3.3.6 of XFree86.  For newer versions, based
> >    on X4.0, you need to place the modules in the correct 
> >    place.  I'm not sure what would happen if you used
> >    a module from, say X4.2.0 with the XFree86 binary 
> >    from X4.1.0.  You'd have to try it.
> >
> >#3) The Xservers that are packaged for use with
> >    LTSP are likely smaller, because I ran the 'strip'
> >    program on them, to strip out the symbol table.
> >    The symbol table is only used for debugging, and
> >    we don't do much of that with X.
> >
> >I'm rather puzzled why the SVGA server from the XFree86 site
> >works fine with the SIS 6202 chipset, and my Xserver doesn't.
> >I grab the sources directly from ftp.xfree86.org, and I applied
> >the simple patch for the read-only root fs.  Other than that,
> >they should be identical.
> >
> >Hope that helps,
> >
> >Jim McQuillan
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> 


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