if you follow the whole thread (as I just did, very thorough) you'll see
that if you are using autologin, it doesn't 'really' matter if you have a
single login account, except that it will create problems down the line.  It
appears to be better to atleast use a single login for each computer, ie the
autologin for ws001 is ws001, and so on through ws012.  At any rate, it is
relatively easy to remove the terminal sessions from each box, just don't
remove the run command from the menu, and remove the xterm application from
the menu. I'm pretty sure that can be customized, much the same way as
removing listings from Win9X .

good luck

joey


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:ltsp-discuss-admin@;lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Daniel �a�
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:17 AM
To: Brian Fahrlander
Cc: LTSP
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP Issues


Hi

Thanks for your answer.

I'm running Linux from the time when kernel had 0.99 version number. Our
LTSP installation is running non-stop for about 6 months with quite luck
but for our employee (different logins of course). Right now I want to
prepare it for students. WebMin is not good enough for us, we need
something more automated. Our students will not use email. We will
supply only such services for them as:
- web browser
- OpenOffice
- library retrival software
Of course I was testing such situation when two or more terminals was
logged in with the same account and had only problems with Mozilla.
Maybe my tests wasn't god enough. I want to prepare minimal graphical
environment with easy of use and security in mind (no acces to compiler
and any possibly dangerous commands or shell - if possible). I will
consider separate logins if You suggest it so strongly :). This is only
application server without any critical applications running. I think
that one login account for many users would be interesting anyway.

Regards
Daniel �a�

W li�cie z pi�, 25-10-2002, godz. 14:37, Brian Fahrlander pisze:
> On 25 Oct 2002 14:14:13 +0200, Daniel �a� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I am network administrator of Main Library of Opole University. We are
> > going to use LTSP in our library. Definitely. We even bought 2 servers
> > for this and 12 dedicated terminals. Yes we want to use one account for
> > many users as we were doing for years with NOVELL for example. This
> > account is student with no password and very low rights. We have many
> > students and i think that creating accounts for them is not good idea.
> > Anybody know or can help how to avoid problems with such configuration
> > with KDE as the desktop?
>
>     First, congratulations!  I hope you have all luck possible.
>
>     But try to force yourself out of the single-login idea.  This isn't
Novell; this is a different breed of cat.  For one thing, this is a new
install- not
something you've run for the last 12 years and gotten all the security holes
out of- you might leave open something that a more veteran admin would close
on

the first login.  It's just something that's gonna happen sooner or later.
>
>     Running a single login also gives you almost no clue whatsoever as to
who-did-what, but it can tell you which terminal, and that's not much help.
>
>     How would a student send/receive email, for example?  Are you going to
ask for yet another login for that?  Think it's gonna be as hardened as the
primary login?

Probably not.
>
>     Students are students.  Sure, they may only have accounts for 12
weeks, but those can be some really long weeks.  Use individual logins.  Use
tools to help

 make this easier: /etc/skel and webmin.
>
>     The /etc/skel setup lets you create a sample directory (and for that
matter running scripts) to create a template account.  Each time a new user
is created, the

 files in that directory are used as defaults. I believe "man skel" is where
you'll find these details.  Redhat also has a nice part on it, in the
manual.
>
>     You *might* even want to invoke quotas at some point (other than email
boxes!) so that one user doesn't download the world and expect the system to

 handle it.  Again, another good use of individual logins.  Setting a single
quota for the one user means that one instance of the generic login can
suck-up all the drive space and lock out ALL other users.
>
>     Webmin allows you to admin the thing remotely- you don't even have to
be on the same continent, yet you get full control over the system from the
comfort of your desktop...any desktop...wherever you are.  And it's a nice,
simple, graphical (web) application that's convenient to use, not to mention
educational.  See http://www.WebMin.com.
>
>     Unix (and therefore, Linux) was created this way for a reason;
remember it was concieved in a reseach-bunker at AT&T, but it was
strengthened and grown in academic environments like Berkeley, Stanford, and
MIT.
>
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