Brian

I agree with you. The installation process is needs to be
perfected to the point of "hands free" or have a very smart
automated trouble-shooter.  I feel lucky (not competent) if I am
able to install LTSP.  I disagree with you for only supporting
the two distros and the two "machine profiles" you mentioned.
I would like to see effort expended in the area of trouble shooting.
for example:

# different distributions of Linux require different
# solutions to the same problem.
if ($distro eq "Red Hat") ; then
   msg7="you need to do a service dhcpd restart"
fi
ltsp_status=$(ps -aux | grep dhcpd | grep -v grep)
if ($ltsp_status -ne [*dhcpd*]) ; then
  echo "dhcpd is not running"
  echo "$msg7"
  exit 2
fi

The above is just an idea not working code.  There are entries or
lack there of in /var/log/messages that give clues as to what is
wrong.  Are there corresponding entries in hosts dhcpd.conf and
lts.conf.  Does the filename mentioned in lts.conf exist?
things like these could be used for an automated trouble shooter.
Things like dhcpd happens before tftp which happens before ipchains
etc. I am going to be un-netted for three weeks for Christmas but
when I get back I will try to collect all of the thoughts that this
thread is generating (read everyone get involved) and try to put
something together.  But I do have another life like everyone else.

Jim Rich
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>     I'm a big believer in LTSP; when I installed 2.x it was fast, simple =
> and light.  But I've made two, seperate, multi-week install attempts on 3=
> .x and have yet to see an X login screen.  And trying to debug it, even a=
> fter knowing how to do it before, was darned near impossible.
>
>     This is not to say that there hasn't been a great deal of work, and i=
> mprovements to the core code...but because it supports so many platforms =
> and variations, it's just gotten so complicated that it's no longer easy =
> or fun anymore.=20
>
>     My suggestion:
>
>     Let's take LTSP 2.x, simplify and improve upon it, but just for the R=
> edhat/Mandrake installations.  Let's make two kinds of configurations by =
> default, Jammin-125 and 'custom' and give the admin some basic starting p=
> oints.
>
>     Wether anyone else wants to do it, I have to.  I plan to install a bu=
> nch in this area, and it'll be easier to maintain a partial-distro than t=
> o convert from what LTSP has become, to what I need in 99%+ of the situat=
> ions, ya know?
>
>     Your thoughts?




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