hey, thanks for the link.
But this site looks completely "theorethical" or "abstract" for me - there
isn`t
any link to solutions/implementations for what they keep in mind. On the
first view,
this just looks like "Propagating the Linux based "NC" as an enterprise
solution" for
me.  (or did I miss a link?)

regards
Roland

PS:
>Sun's SunRays are something similar in the proprietary world.
and very cool - indeed (already mentioned below) ;)



----- Original Message -----
From: "John McCreesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] session management in vnc like in citrix or
sunray ?


> I think the guys at netproject http://www.netproject.com have done
> something like this in the open-source world, where users can move
> seamlessly from one workstation to another. Sun's SunRays are something
> similar in the proprietary world.
>
> John
>
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:12:33 +0100
> "roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Terminalguys :)
> >
> > I already posted this mail to the vnc mailinglist - but I think a
posting
> > here will give me more feedback about this. As far as I can see, the
> > "roaming Desktop" feature in Thin Computing with Linux is still to be
done.
> > With X itself, we have no option - it would be VERY difficult to
implement,
> > because how should one tell the X-App that the User "moved" from
Terminal A
> > to Terminal B ? Perhaps some sort of "X-Proxy" would be an option - but
I
> > think, the most compromising approach for this, is to enhance VNC for
that
> > purpose.
> > Please give me feedback,  what you think.
> > Since i`m sysadmin/sysengineer i`m not very good in programming, but if
> > there is interest, I would at least try to start and maintain a project,
> > which aims at giving "session management" (and loadbalancing???...)
feature
> > to VNC.
> >
> > regards
> > Roland
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------
> >
> > hello!
> >
> > i`m using a setup of xvnc under inetd and kdm control, so each user can
> > connect and get`s his own desktop. noone has to "fiddle around" with
> > dedicated port-numbers, which he has to connect to. this makes the
"linux
> > terminal server alterative" become somewhat realitiy, but unfortunaly,
we
> > loose the "preserve session state"-feature of vnc here, because each
time
> > the user closes vncviewer, the serving xvnc process dies.
> > see very good docs at:
> > http://www.sourcecodecorner.com/articles/vnc/linux.asp
> >
> > I wonder, if there is anybody around, thinking of implementing a layer
of
> > "session management" into vnc, that users can reconnect to (one of) his
> > previously established  and disconnected session(s).
> >
> > This would make the "roaming desktop" possible - without the need, to
assign
> > dedicated port numbers to users and pre-spawning xnvc processes for ALL
of
> > them.
> >
> > It could be done by adding a "dispatcher" in front (or inside?)  xvnc
which
> > is able to manage sessions previously established. sure, some sort of
> > authentication needs to be done at this level, because the only
reasonable
> > way to re-establish sessions and to route it to the appropriate client,
is
> > to get known, WHO is reconnecting.
> >
> > I administer citrix servers, which have this feature - when the user
> > reconnects he is routed to his old session. if he has more than one
> > disconnected session, he can choose, which he wants to re-establish. I
also
> > have some experience with sunray terminals - which have this feature in
"2
> > flavours".  The user is able to re-establish a disconnected session by
> > entering login/password OR by using a smartcard (whereas the sunray
x-server
> > process[==xvnc] is "bound" to a smartcard - so the user inserts his
> > smartcard at any terminal and gets back his personal desktop)
> >
> > are there any solutions around or is there any work in progress,
> > implementing
> > this with vnc ?
> > i`m really shure this IS possible with reasonable effort. (unfortunately
i`m
> > awful bad programmer, otherwise i would do that myself :)
> >
> > regards
> > roland
> >
> >
> >
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