Hello;

I have worked with setting up old PCs and have
concluded that old hardware can waste a *lot*
of time.  If a PC requires more than 30 minutes
to prepare as an LTSP client, it isn't worth my
time - and I've wasted a lot of time trying to
find out that ISA cards are *very* difficult to
configure.

Especially when you can purchase good PCs for
less than $50.00 from E-Bay (PII, with memory).
You can also purchase new thin clients for less
than $200 from caseoutlet.com (less memory).
http://www.caseoutlet.com/NWPc/2677R/CS-2677R.html

In my opinion, I think the best solution is to 
try to find some companies that will donate old
PCs.  This will be much easier if you specify that
you don't want hard disks in them.  Companies are
(or should be) paranoid about disposing of hard
disks.

I was amazed when talking with an Independent School
District and overheard a mandate to get rid of the 
last of their "old P266" machines.

The problems you are having are due to "memory
squeeze".  There's probably enough memory to load
the O/S and mount the root filesystem from the
server, but not to run X.

If you want to demonstrate the need for more
memory, you can change /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
and set the runlevel for the "crippled" workstation
to "3".  This way, the boot process stops before
X is started and you can show that trying to run
X overloads the machine.

During the boot process, a script is created that
starts X when executed: "/tmp/start_ws".  It is
good for troubleshooting when run by hand like
so:

    # /tmp/start_ws > /tmp/x.out 2>&1


Of course, it is mostly useful if you can get back
to the command line to examine the file.  Trying
to run X in only 8 MB may seize the machine totally.

Hope this helps,

Tom

> I am trying to set up network with collection of old machines. Could you
> help me for:
> 
> 1. Pentium I's with 8mb mem get hung up at RAM disk step during boot. I
> have enabled nfs_swap option but still the machine does not boot beyond
> this. I have four machines of this configuration so I need answers
> desperately.
> 
> 2. 386's with 8mb mem. I have six machines of this spec and I was
> wondering if any of you have made config's for such machines including
> running X. I know it will run slow (slower than slow) but till I prove
> the concept the management will not sanction upgrades.


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   Thomas L. Griffing       Red Hat Certified Engineer
   Pondus Solutions, Inc.   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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