I am using a gateway server to serve DHCP/LTSP images
over several 100BaseT ethernet switches.  Then, I use
a server for serving X desktops that is even farther
back behind a 10BaseT half-duplex hub (obviously very
slow) and furthermore, I am serving Windows terminal
services from the 100BaseT area back to the X desktop
server and back out again to client workstations all
over the mix of switches and hubs.

Amazingly, it works perfectly fine.  Furthermore, I
have included Cygwin on the Windows terminal server
(Win2K Advanced Server) and use it to run X
applications.. Testing this, I used Linux to get to
Windows and then Windows to get to Linux and looped
these about 5 times over before it bombed on me.  It
started getting noticeably slow after the third full
loop.  


This is fun....I'm also using mostly CAT3 cables, most
of which are run alongside a 110VAC power line.

It's utterly amazing things work as well as they do. 
The only failures we've had over the last year have
been a 24 port, 100BaseT switch that's roughly in the
middle of all this.  It locks up shooting out tons of
garbage about once every other month.

Exception--Early on, we had desktops periodically
freeze when I was using Red Hat 8.0 (or 8.1? I forget)
as the desktop server.  Red Hat's hacked version of
XFree86 periodically froze when using it on the
console machine, but not on the other systems.  The
Ext3 filesystem also had corruption a couple of times
after power failures...that took a long time to scan
and repair.  I've since switched to ReiserFS like all
my other boxes and have never had a problem with
ReiserFS (except for two hardware failures) over the
last four years.  The fschk.reiserfs also works much
faster than the Ext3 version.

I like Red Hat for their console tweaks and such.. And
I respect them a lot for staying 100% true to Free
Software principles....But I think they are way too
politically biased against certain technologies such
ReiserFS and KDE...and this hurts us, users.

Matthew

--- Anselm Martin Hoffmeister
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >hi,
> >
> >i read about lts and it seems to be a great
> solution for our old clients
> >but most of them are over a wan. how much band
> width do i need per client?
> >
> >where can i find the specification (or some
> references ) about how the protocol
> >works?
> >  
> >
> LTSP just "stands on the shoulder of giants" :-)
> regarding protocols.
> You probably need one dhcp server local to the
> clients (but can go 
> without with some manual work), which also serves
> tftp and nfs.
> This can be done by some old machine too, it needs
> not too much compute 
> power.
> The CPU intensive part, execution of graphics
> application, should be 
> done on some powerful server, that uses XDMCP for
> session management,
> generally, just the Linux/*nix  X-Protocol is used.
> You will find lots 
> of info about it in google probably.
> 
> The X protocol is quite bandwith intensive, but
> there have been thoughts 
> (Jim McQuillan didn't like them too much, but that
> does not meen it's 
> impossible to do this) to use
> Nomachine's NoMX X-compression technology for
> situations with wide-area 
> networks. Currently, no package for this is
> available, but you are 
> welcome to bring it to live :-)
> 
> I cannot give you numbers of bandwith, just tell you
> that 16 clients 
> over a 10MBit coaxial network suffer from a bandwith
> problem, but making 
> two networks
> of 8 each improved the situation dramatically. Peak
> loads arise on 
> whole-screen-refreshed etc...
> Best you just give it a try.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Anselm
> 
> 
> 
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