On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 09:35:12AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote:

> 
> Gee, and we're probably Ugly too!  :-)

I'm sure you're not so ugly.


> By the way - you misspelled the word "the" as "he" in the last line 
> of your "bottles of beer" phrase.

Thanks.

> 
> (Am I picking nits? Yes. Why? Because you're whining about how hard this
> is for you and how lousy a job a bunch of largely UNPAID volunteers are
> doing when the real problem is your lack of general knowledge about
> different computing architectures as well as the fact that MOST of
> what your complaining about is primarily subjective. Frankly the LTSP
> folks have done and continue to do a great job. (Just my subjective
> perspective :-) )  )

Actually, I am a fairly knowledgeable Unix user.  I have built networks 
before, I have built computers, etc.  I am not a guru by any stretch of 
the immagination, but something like LTSP should definitely lie within my 
skill level.

I am also sure that LTSP is great software.  It's the documentation I'm 
frustrated with.

Finally, good documentation is not nearly as subjective as you might 
imagine.  I know because I have spent a lot of time learning about how 
to write documentation, and I AM a fairly good documentation writer.


> 
> Ok - enough sniping at each other.

Sure.  I SHOULD have been more careful when expressing my frustration.

> 
> Here I'll reach ALL the way out to my keyboard and go to google for
> you:  
> 
> LTSP is primarily about thin clients:  (aka "diskless workstation")

Yes, I knew that.  But thanks.

I know about the basic benefits of thin clients, and I've used them 
before.  That's why I want to suggest to our computer comitte that in 
moving to Linux we go for a thin-client model.  That's why I wen to LTSP.


> How it actually works is superbly well explained step by step here    
> in the "Theory of operation" section of the LTSP 3.0 Documentation:
> http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/ltsp-3.0-4-en.html#AEN53

I read that.  It provided some useful information, but it is an example of 
not seeing the forest for the trees.  That is the problem I find, over 
all, with the LTSP documentation.

> See also at the The Linux documentation project:  www.tldp.org
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Thinclient-HOWTO.html
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Remote-Boot.html

Thanks, I didn't know of those links.  BTW, at first sight, that looks like 
well-written 
documentation.  It is at least easy to browse and easy on the eyes.  I can't comment 
on the 
content yet.  I'll read it after I'm done with my email.

> Net Layout:
> 
> 
> Client 1 --|
> Client 2 --|
> Client 3 --|------ethernet to LTSP server NIC 1--|
> Client . --|                                     |
> Client . --|                                     |
> Client N --|                                     |
>                                                  |
>                                                  |
>                    |-----------------|           |
>                    | LTSP Server     |-----------|
>                    |                 |
>                    |                 |
>                    |                 |
>                    |                 |
>                    |-----------------|
>                             |
>                    ethernet from LTSP Server
>                    NIC 2 to rest of LAN,
>                    or internet, enterprise
>                    router - what have you.


Wow! ASCII art.  You really went the extra mile here.  Thanks.

Cheers,
-- 
Daniel Carrera |   Aleph-0 bottles of beer on the wall, Aleph-0 bottles
PhD student.   |   of beer.  Take one down, pass it around, Aleph-0
Math Dept.     |   bottles of beer on the wall...
UMD.           | http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Aleph-0.html


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