On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 08:48, Anselm Martin Hoffmeister wrote:
> Simon Haynes wrote:
> > 
> > I've been lurking for about a week, and I need a little help.
> > I've installed a small LTSP setup at my kids' school.  (1 server, 2 terminals)   
> > The plan is to swap over their existing Win 98 machines bit by bit until they have 
> > 15-20 machines connected.
> > So far, so good.  The terminals are lightning-quick compared to those running 
> > Win98 locally, the IT teacher is onside and keen to get more converted over and 
> > the kids are using OpenOffice.org without any training at all.
> > So much for the intro, now for the question ;-)   The headmaster is hosting the 
> > principals of 20 other schools in February, and they've specifically asked to see 
> > his new Linux setup in action.  He would like me to do a quick talk on the 
> > benefits, cost, any downsides and so on.
> > 
> > This is a great opportunity to promote Linux and LTSP at a grass-roots level 
> > (they're all Primary schools), and I don't want to blow it.  Does anyone have any 
> > pointers for me?  I don't want to get overly technical, even though these 
> > principals run small schools and probably have to maintain their computers 
> > themselves.  I feel that stability, cost, re-use of existing hardware are probably 
> > the biggies, but is there anything else I should mention?
> 
> What seems to "talk people into using LTSP" (in the very positive sense) 
> is - besides being Linux freaks, which sometimes can be helpful:
> 
> a/ legality - Enforcement of Linux usage after more pressure for a 
> correct Microsoft license policy, and let me tell you they had lots of 
> Windows installations...
> 
> b/ security - Ever tried to get a Winblows 2k3 server tight? Pain, be 
> told, sweeted by the fact that the only reasonable docs I found was a 
> book I was given more or less by coincidence. A printed book. Kind of 
> changes after being used to "man this-command" (I even tried "loadkeys 
> de" at the dosprompt today instead of "keyb gr" :-)
> 
> c/ Plannability - Who knows what M$ calculates next for software 
> changes? Looking back 10 years, which operating system had more system 
> design breaks or version incompatibilities that led to costy software 
> upgrades (comparing Linux to M$ software)...
> 
> d/ Speed of the terminals, as you mentioned: Hardware costs
> 
> e/ Support costs (as teachers usually work for $0 in their own school's 
> internet rooms, at least here in Germany it's quite often that teachers 
> have to keep the lab running in their spare time without any help - and 
> a 400 EUR budget *per year*) - LTSP has a very active user base, and 
> though several problems are not solved in community, many common 
> problems can be looked up in the mailing list archives; questions on the 
> list are answered within two days or so, for free.
> 
> f/ I setup a WinTS lab (16 places total, one server) recently. 'Nuff said.
> 
> That's just some points I'd give in an oral, informal debate. Perhaps 
> you caught something you can use.
> 
> There are also several PDFs about LTSP setups, I think mentioning cost 
> calculations etc. Have a look on the ltsp.org website.

Coming from a totally different background in India I would venture to
say:
1. Re-use of all existing hardware...so no need for new hardware roll
out.
2. Ease of upgrade and maintenance .. all needs are on one ( or few)
servers.
-- 
Sudev Barar

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