On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Kenn Sebesta wrote:

> Hi, I've been using the ltsp package for a little while now and decided 
> to make an ebuild for Gentoo Linux, www.gentoo.org. I've got some 
> questions, though, since I don't think that the default LTSP 
> installation method can work for ebuilds.

You should talk with bill_c on the #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net.
He's done ebuilds of some of the various ltsp releases, and he might
have already gone through this for ltsp-4.1.

> 
> As you know, the perl script always downloads the latest versions and 
> installs them. This is exaclty what the "emerge" command in gentoo does! 
> This causes problems with emerge and the ebuild as the ebuild will have 
> to be manually updated in order to reflect the newer versions of 
> individual packages that might not be announced on the webpage. What is 
> the policy for minor updates to individual components? Will that be 
> released as a new version?

Can't the email download an updated list of packages, and then download 
those packages ?


> 
> I understand if it isn't. Gentoo hardly releases a new version of Gentoo 
> every time that someone updates a package. As you say in your web page, 
> LTSP is practically it's own linux distribution. I wouldn't expect 
> "emerge redhat" or "emerge debian" to work, so it's already a miracle 
> and a testament to your work that "emerge ltsp" does.
> 
> Also, will the 4.1 files be eventually hosted on the sourceforge server? 
> My ebuild downloads them directly from www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.1. While 
> there's no link on the main site to these files, will there be one once 
> this comes out of beta?

Actually, www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.1 IS hosted by SourceForge.  It's just not
going through their fle release system.  Dunno if that helps.

> 
> There's a second solution, though. I could just have the ebuild download 
> *all* the source files and compile them on the local machine. While this 
> is how Gentoo is supposed to work, in the case of LTSP I'm not sure 
> that's a good idea. It might be a complete waste of resources. It seems 
> to me that there isn't any advantage in compiling the packages on the 
> server when the packages themselves will be run on clients. Or am I 
> mistaken in my understanding of LTSP?

Ltsp really needs to be built through the LBE.  Trying to force this 
into an eBuild type of setup is probably asking for trouble.  I'm not 
really sure how to handle this.  I'm getting hit by Debian folks, Redhat 
folks and Suse folks, all trying to figure out how to ship LTSP packages 
as part of their distributions.  And, to do that, they want to build 
with their tools, not mine.

> 
> Thanks a lot for any help and I eagerly await 4.1 final.

It won't be long now.

Jim McQuillan
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> 
> Cheers,
> Kenn Sebesta
> 
> 
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