Joe Baker wrote:

Jason Maas wrote:

Hi James,

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I can show you a site that will crash ltsp + firefox with 256M ram on client, reliably, repeatably, and at the same point every time.


Problem description
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The problem didn't happen on all of http://ww2.lafayette.edu/~collegestore/baby-merchandise.htmlour terminals though. At first I thought that maybe it was connected to the video chip in use, which would determine the X driver which might be buggy. Then I realized that the terminals that could be consistently crashed all had 64MB of RAM. When I bumped them up to 128MB of RAM then the consistent crashing stopped. Woo Hoo! Now it seems that the crashing isn't totally gone, but adding RAM *really* helped.

So Jim, does that sound like the same problem you've seen? Does at least 256MB of RAM per client seem to make it go away? I'm also thinking of turning on NFS swap, at least as a stopgap measure. Anyone else have any experience with this problem and possible solutions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Jason

Hi Jason, (Joe Baker Here)
I loaded up the page with Firefox on a thin client with 64 Meg of ram and 64 meg of Swap space over NFS. I usually never see the swap space used. In this case I did see 19 megs of swap space used (the "free" command will report the memory usage on the thin client). I suspect it has something to do with the background on the web page. I'm running 1280x1024 resolution at a 15 bit color depth. My video card is integrated on the motherboard. I'm running Firefox 1.0.6 on Mandriva 10.1 with LTSP 4.1.1. Scrolling with Firefox is very slow (NFS Swapping). Is there any way that we can specify a local hard disk to be used for swap space on the thin clients? I'm definately going to increase the swapfile settings to greater than the 64megs I've been using.

How is the swap over nfs support coming along in the 2.6 kernels? By the looks of this we are going to need it.

It isn't uncommon for applications to simply crash when enough memory cannot be allocated. If you have syslog enabled, you might see something in the loggs about "out of memory" errors. Another instance where this type of incident may occur is when a user is looking at a large photo attached to an email message and tries to scroll it.

Jason, in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf can you tell me what the X_COLOR_DEPTH= setting is for the machine where it crashes?

-Joe Baker

The problem is with the web site design.
Those bozos are putting _HUGE_ images on the page, then adjusting the size of the image down with the image property tags in the HTML code. These fxxxxing (I don't use this word loosely on public mailing lists) images are 1300x1400 in size then scaled down with the web browser. The webmaster needs to learn how to make smaller image files for publication on the web. Suggest GIMP or Image Magic.

-Joe Baker



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