On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:44:53 +0100, Jan Kunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Can anyone confirm/negate that terminal server shoud *NOT* not be
> physically used "as a station" = like terminal?
> Why?
> I know good terminal can be for $50+ (in my areas), but:
> * we can save electricity on 1T
> * we can save a  little place
> * we will have monitor, keyboard attached to TS (so why not to use them?)
> * TS (any) onboard card is better (2D quality) than any 3-4 years OLD
> lowend PCI/AGP cards
> * can have DVI
> * save (only but)a few MB of RAM and HDD (swap, gew mbits of netcard
> (used by other1 terminal)
> * $50 is NOT $0
> Thanks 4 your opinions.

Why?

When graphic are sent to a graphics card, a huge bandwidth is used, and in  
modern architecture it still all goes through the processor. The computers  
resources are put in to sending information to the card. This slow downs  
all other processes - and graphical processes have a high priority, as  
they give us feedback.

If this happens on a thin client, the server can go on chugging away and  
send out other graphics to other clients and its the clients that end up  
using most of their resources sending stuff to the graphics card, do the  
colur space conversion and so on. There is an equality of graphics  
processing amongst the clients.

If this happens on the terminal server, the performance of every other  
machine the server serves is impacted severly. You don't really want your  
entire organisations computers to slow down because the person on the  
terminal server is dragging a window about, and this really is what  
happens.

To take on your other points individually:

ENERGY SAVING
You don't need a monitor on the server, so you are only saving the cost of  
one thin client, which you can use a very very low wattage machine, and  
turn it off when you don't need it. The saving would be minimal.

SPACE SAVING
stick your LTS somewhere out of the way, and maintain it from a client.

A MONITOR AND KEYBOARD ATTACHED TO THE TERMINAL SERVER
no need, see above

SAVING RAM AND HDD
There is another way of looking at this. If you use the LTS as a  
workstation, the RAM and HDD swap will be on the LTS. If you instead us a  
thin client, which you are making out of an old machine you have lying  
aroung, then you get EXTRA RAM FOR FREE. There's some LTSP magic for you.

GRAPHICAL QUALITY
Sometimes true, but you can get hold of very good quality cards very  
cheaply. This is a very small gain IMHO, when using the server will lower  
the performance of everyones machine.

DVI
Same as above, beg or borrow a DVI card, stick it in your client.


If you really feal you need a keyboard on your LTS, then use a KVM and  
swap between client and server.

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