On Tue, September 26, 2006 2:42 pm, Richard Bos wrote:
> Op dinsdag 26 september 2006 20:12, schreef Jim McQuillan:
>> Well, you didn't mention which distro, so I can't give a firm answer on
>> the MueKow support.  If you are looking at Debian or Ubuntu, then MueKow
>> is the way to go.  if you are thinking about Fedora, then you'll have to
>> wait a bit longer, as they are just getting started with the
>> integration.
>> (see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5 for details on the
>> future of LTSP-5)
>
> I'm interested I having ltsp5 supported in (open)suse.  When looking at
> the
> minimum requirements to support ltsp5, I believe that opensuse already
> fullfill most of these, and perhaps all.  Is it possible at state where
> opensuse fails the minimal requirements?


Opensuse includes many of the pieces, but nobody has glued them together
yet into installable packages.

The whole idea of MueKow (LTSP-5) is that the distros packages will be
used.  See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/MueKow for an
explanation and the reasoning behind it.

Opensuse is missing most of the integration of the SUSE packages with the
stuff that LTSP will provide.  In the end, LTSP.org will supply very
little of the actual operating system that the thin client boots.  It'll
mainly supply some startup scripts and some configuration bits.  It's up
to the distro to supply their glibc, bash, shutils, kernels, Xorg
packages, and tons more.

This is entirely different from the way we've distributed LTSP in the past.

As for availability of LTSP-5, it currently is available with Ubuntu and
Debian.  Fedora has just started working on it, and so far, Novell/Suse
hasn't said whether they are interested in integrating LTSP into their
distro.

For those distros that either won't, or don't yet have an implementation
of LTSP (Suse comes to mind), we will be making images available based on
Ubuntu, Debian and probably Fedora, that can be dropped in place on the
distro of your choice.

It is absolutely our goal to have ALL distros include LTSP.  We're very
interested in helping anybody to accomplish this.

If anybody is interested in helping, I suggest they subscribe to the
ltsp-developer mailing list, available from the ltsp.org website.  ALso,
most of the development takes place on the #ltsp IRC channel on
irc.freenode.net.


Jim McQuillan
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>
> 1 Booting thin clients via PXE and Etherboot
> 2 Local devices using LTSPFS
> 3 Network transparent multimedia (audio and video)
> 4 Screen scripts, including XDMCP, ldm/sdm, rdesktop, telnet, shell
> 5 Booting thin clients with as little as 32mb of system ram
> 6 Use of LTSP scripts and utilities (getltscfg, et al)
> 7 Passing of VCI string from the client to the server (in initramfs)
> 8 Transparent pass-through printing
> 9 Network swapping via NBD
> 10 Ability to specify location of the LTSP chroot tree (default
> location: /opt/ltsp)
> 11 Ability to control options per workstation using "lts.conf".
>
> I think that 1 and 2 are supported out of the (opensuse) box.
> 3 is that esd? I don't have experience with multimedia (MM) and ltsp.
> 4 Are these the /etc/init.d (rc.d) scripts?  What are ldm and sdm?
> 5 What does this (< 32MB) actually involve?  A special build kernel or
> might
> the default kernel provided by opensuse be used?
> 6 Aren't the LTSP scripts provided by ltsp and as such automatically used?
> 7 What are VCI strings?  Are those the strings on the bootprompt?
> 8 Transparent pass through printing, is that the printing via port 9100?
> 9 Is that working in opensuse?
> 10 I have ltsp-4.2 in /opt/ltsp/ltsp-4.2 why would this be more difficult
> in
> ltsp-5?
> 11 same as 10, why should that not be possible in ltsp-5
>
> I think that what it basically comes down to is the following question:
> what
> is provided by ltsp and what is to be provided by distribution precisely?
> I
> mean all the above items are currently available, via the ltsp packages,
> and
> as such it is working in opensuse.
>
> Any idea when ltsp 5 might be available (2, 5 months from now)?  I know it
> will be a rough guess and things may be months later than desired.
>
> --
> Richard Bos
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