Hi Everyone,

I have three old Dell Dimension L800CXE computers laying around and I thought 
that they would make great LTSP terminals for training purposes.  I have a 
whole company (about 60 terminals) running off of an LTSP server and I love it. 
 The problem is that the Dell systems have an Intel i810 video chip and even 
though they connect to the xserver just fine, they lock up completely after 
about a minute of clicking around.  I've tried various X_MODE and X_VIDEORAM 
and XSERVER settings in LTS.CONF, but I just can't get it to work.  I was 
wondering if anyone else has had this problem before and perhaps knows a 
workaround or solution.  I have gone through the LTSP Wiki and tried the 
various suggestions, but nothing seems to work.  I'm running LTSP v4.2 on 
Fedora Core 5.

Thanks,
Tanner


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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:22:02 -0500
From: Scott Balneaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] I need to remote reboot a LTSP 5 client
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Sherwood Botsford wrote:

> Why are you reluctant to run ssh?

The biggest problem with running sshd on the thin client is mainly
a performance issue: if you've got 1ghz clients with goodly amount
of ram, yeah, it's a great solution.  Problem is, we've got a lot
of people running some really low end hardware, who, understandably,
want all the bells and whistles, but have some acheingly bad hardware.

Just a few weeks ago, I bumped into a fellow who's got a few hundred
machines with, like, 200 Mhz processors and 16 megs (!) of ram.  They
worked, barely, on an older ltsp version with a 2.4 kernel, but now
don't under ltsp5, due to 2.6 kernels being much bigger, and the
size of the initramfs.  Of course, he wanted sound, localdevs, graphics,
and any other bling going that he could.  We couldn't make it work
for him, and the last time I talked, he was going to have to see about
finding more ram for the boxes.

> Method 2:
> On the server create a new file system.  Can be quite small.
> Let it be mountable rw by all clients.  Mount it as
> "remote_commands"  In this directory, create a directory for each 
> client, with the name of the cleint.
> 
> On the client, create a cron job that periodically checks for the 
> contents of /remote_commands/`hostname`/
> If it finds a script there, it copies the script to /tmp, deletes 
> the script from the server, then executes it.  (Or the last line 
> of the script can delete the script.

I like this method, however, only thing I'd change would be to replace
cron with a small inotify util.  It would be small, with a low memory
consumption.

Scott

-- 
Scott L. Balneaves | "Eternity is a very long time,
Systems Department |  especially towards the end."
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:46:34 -0400
From: Jean-Michel Dault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] I need to remote reboot a LTSP 5 client
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Le lundi 27 ao?t 2007 ? 13:22 -0500, Scott Balneaves a ?crit :

> The biggest problem with running sshd on the thin client is mainly
> a performance issue: if you've got 1ghz clients with goodly amount
> of ram, yeah, it's a great solution.  Problem is, we've got a lot
> of people running some really low end hardware, who, understandably,
> want all the bells and whistles, but have some acheingly bad hardware.

Don't forget that you can run ssh under inetd/xinetd, which means that,
until there's a connection, you don't use any resources.

Many LTSP services could benefit from inetd/xinetd:
- printing
- reboot
- local applications
- ltspfs
- etc.

The main disadvantage of running xinetd is that it adds a small delay,
but for all these services, it's not a problem.


-- 
Jean-Michel Dault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
R?volution Linux inc.




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