On Wednesday 21 May 2008 02:47:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> I have a fedora 8 server with Vmware 1.0.5, and Kubuntu 8.04 with ltsp
> running in a VM. It has been working fairly well. It is just about
> impossible to keep the time synchronized between the main server and the
> VM. But otherwise, it works well.
>
> Up time is pretty good. I have gone for up to a month between rebooting
> the server, which I only do when fedora pushes out another kernel. I
> found that you need to allocate at least 1 gig of virtual memory for the
> virtual machine, so make sure you have enough RAM.
>
> This is not any kind of production machine, I did it because I have been
> using fedora for a while, but I wanted to play with Ubuntu, so I set up
> a VM. It proved easier to get ltsp running on Ubuntu than Fedora, so I
> set it up in the vm.
>
> I have a few old motherboards that I have set up as clients. I have one
> set up as a print and scanner server, and a couple of others set up as
> terminals.
>
> This should work for a live set up if you have enough RAM, and can find
> a way to keep time synchronized between the server and the VM

Derek's motivation is slightly differant using NFS on fedora. I use NBD on 
CentOS  which I found to be easy, but others have struggled to follow, (and 
also use ubuntu) BUT ...

VMs are cute etc etc, but there is no reason to use them:

You never need to upgrade a working LTSP (all the security etc reasons do not 
apply)

If you upgrade for new hardware or new features or fixes you need to upgrade 
the VMs anyway so nothing is gained with VMs or straight servers.

Memory is messy. You must have a 64bit VM-host for a 64bit guest. You'd rather 
have 64bit ltsp-servers if you have 1G or more ram.

My ubuntu ltsp backup is /opt/ltsp plus the ltsp-tools on a DVD. The CentOS is 
a rpm on same DVD.

So I argue that VMs are cute etc, but bring no benefit to ltsp-admin and carry 
a small load of degradations.

As Vagrant says, live well
James

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