GET OFF MY LAWN! =p Seriously though, technology such as this seems to be living, breathing... a breath in, loading up with eye candy and fluff, a breath out afterwards, realizing you don't NEED all of it, and cut back, improving everything for the next breath in.
I'd like to hope we're starting to breathe out. Configurations need to be easy to handle. Once you start needing graphical utilities to configure your graphical utilities, you've done something wrong, IMHO. I'm definitely not a hardcore *nix veteran, but I'm most definitely a minimalist at heart. I started using Linux because I was (rightly so) p*ssed off that Windows 95 demanded that it have multiple system files in the root of the C: drive. Files I didn't put there. That's when I decided I needed to take control back of my system somehow. I find a lightweight wm like fluxbox just perfect for what I need. I only recently started using Gnome because, after all, I wasn't about to try and convince my clients that Fluxbox was the best thing to use. It's not for everyone. But at least you're in control! Cheers, Jordan/Lns Scott Balneaves wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:34:47PM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > >> and then there's firefox and a handful of other widely used applications (i >> think gnome doesn't work so well) where that just plain doesn't work. yes, >> that's not "how it should be" but that's the sad reality of many >> applications. >> >> i don't like it either. >> > > <grumpy old fart rant> > > When I first started getting involved with GNU/Linux and/or Unix in a desktop > capacity (Late 80's/Early 90's) twm was the workhorse, and if you wanted > bling, you went for fvwm2. It was a glorious time. Config files didn't > change > *unless you freaking well opened up your vi editor and edited them*. And if > you were *smart*, you kept everything in rcs (before git, before bzr, before > svn, and even before cvs, there was... rcs). In fact, you kept 2 copies: one > that was heavily commented, your "testing" config, and one that had all the > comments and blank lines removed so it loaded fast as lightning on your 386sx > with 640meg hard disk. > > I had an fvwm2 desktop that gnome, kde, or *nuttin*'s been able to match for > bling since, and I expect, ever. > > It was... perfect. Back when I used to *know* what my config was all about. > > Sigh... Still got my twm config files around here somewhere, if you want... > I still use tin for news, and mutt for mail. If I could just break my web > graphics habit, I could switch to lynx, and then not even bother to start X > anymore... > > /shakes cane/ Durn you kids with yer fancy schmancy compositing window > managers. One pixel borders ain't GOOD enough for yah, eh? > > Ah, well. Time and tide... > > </grumpy old fart rant> > > Cheers, > Scott > > -- Jordan Erickson Owner, Logical Networking Solutions http://www.logicalnetworking.net 707-636-5678 * Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail * Latest LNS Blogs - http://blog.logicalnetworking.net Why aren't computers more like telephones? OpenVPN and Gnome Network Manager California digital textbook initiative moves forward ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _____________________________________________________________________ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
