On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:28:17AM +0100, Chris Roberts wrote:
> I realised that I have been putting up with a small irritation in LTSP, 
> assuming that it is a general issue, rather than being specific to me.
> 
> When my users get their password wrong, they get a "No response from server, 
> restarting" error.  This then leads the user to bother me, thinking that the 
> server is down.  They do generally get used to this over time, but it does 
> make them feel that the system lacks polish.

indeed. this is largely due to the fact that LDM has a somewhat hackish way of
logging in.

there has been some work on moving toward libssh2 (or something similar?) which
has promise for an improved ssh interaction, but haven't heard much recently.

 
> This problem is compounded when the users are prompted to change their 
> password, as it always seems to give this error, leading them to think that 
> they haven't succeeded in changing their password.  They then try fruitlessly 
> to use their old password as they "know" that they haven't succeeded in 
> changing it.  I then get them to try their new password and of course that 
> works.
> 
> I have some users who have yet to successfully change their password on their 
> own, which does add to my workload.

i hear ya.
 
> I have tried googling, but, whilst there are loads of hits for "ltsp \"no 
> response from server\"" of course these are not related to this more general 
> issue of the message itself being rather misleading.
> 
> So is this just a general problem, or just Debian, or just us?  If it is a 
> general problem, is there a solution or workaround?  Should I be logging a 
> bug?

i think it's a problem in LDM's design.


originally, we tried to parse the output of the ssh session, but that proved
impractical as each distro, and even different versions of the same distro,
provided different output.

in theory, the current design passes whatever text ssh spits out through to the
user, but in practice, failed password attempts are pretty sparse on the
feedback. i think that part worked better when we didn't limit the number of
password tries to 1.

live well,
  vagrant

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