On Apr 14, 2011, at 4:53 PM, David Goulet wrote:

Hola,

I like the idea of making thing more simpler and more "namespace oriented" for ust.

On 11-04-13 04:59 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
OK, so I took care of most of the instrumentation API, but some
questions need discussion.

-> given that the API presented to users will be "TRACE_EVENT()" (which
we should rename to something else to eliminate confusion), it might
make sense to make both of DECLARE_TRACE and DEFINE_TRACE internal to
tracepoints and don't expose them to the users.

If I understand correctly what we want for ust, marker are staying, tracepoint are getting replaced by trace event? So, considering this fact, those two macros (declare_ and define_) should simply be not supported anymore and eventually get rid of them?

This sounds good, though it will mean that we will always generate the "TRACE_EVENT" part of the tracepoint, that is, no tracepoints that don't generate data... But I think this is fine.


TRACE_EVENT() could be the macro replacing these, but I would recommend using a name like "TRACEPOINT_TEMPLATE()", which is what it really is.


A good concern raised by Steven R. is the fact that "TRACE_EVENT" can and will confuse people with the ones in the kernel (in terms of google search mostly!). So, a name like "TRACEPOINT_TEMPLATE" says to me (normal person, no tracing knowledge, maybe my grand mother!) : this is tracepoint related, nothing to do with trace event and I don't want to modify a template right... (totally confused :P).

So, should it be more "TRACE EVENT" user-space oriented for the name?

UTRACE_EVENT --> confusing with utrace
UPROBE... --> again, confusing with uprobe...
UST_TRACE_EVENT --> ust stands for user-space tracing (and not LTTng user-space tracer :P)

... maybe we need more brainstorm... I'm out of ideas...

What about UST_EVENT ? Though I thought we were going to "share" the tracepoints, so this might not be a good name, on the other hand, it does sound good: Userspace Trace Event, in fact, I would say that we can use this name even if we do share it. Its a good description.



UST Markers (main API members):

#include<ust/marker.h>

ust_marker(name, "fmt", ...)
UST_MARKER_NOARGS
GET_UST_MARKER()
DEFINE_UST_MARKER(name, ...)
ust_marker_probe_unregister()
ust_marker_probe_register()
ust_marker_synchronize_unregister()
UST_MARKER_LIB

Will be eventually phased-out with the new TRACEPOINT_TEMPLATE() and CTF:
DEFINE_UST_MARKER_TP()
ust_marker_tp()


No problem. Simpler is better and this API will be UST specific so rtfm at that point :).

Just one question, these are UST internal right? I mean, not to be confused with the ustctl functions?

/Nils


Thanks
David

Feedback is welcome,

Thanks,

Mathieu


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