* Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jon Bernard" <[email protected]> > > To: "Mathieu Desnoyers" <[email protected]> > > Cc: "Stéphane Graber" <[email protected]>, "Alexandre Montplaisir" > > <[email protected]>, > > [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:10:09 PM > > Subject: Re: LTTng packages in Debian sid out of sync > > > > * Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Jon, > > > > > > We've had a couple of user reports about lttng versions not working in > > > Debian. > > > > > > I'm looking at the current Debian sid, and here is the situation: > > > > > > http://packages.debian.org/sid/lttng-tools : version 2.1.1-2 > > > http://packages.debian.org/sid/utils/ltt-bin : version 2.1.1-2 > > > http://packages.debian.org/sid/lttng-modules-dkms : version 2.3.0-1 > > > > > > Although it's possible that lttng-modules 2.3.x will work with lttng-tools > > > 2.1.x, this combination of versions is unsupported. We require that > > > ust/tools/modules be updated in locked step between minor versions (2.1 > > > with > > > 2.1, 2.2 with 2.2, and so on). Also, 2.1 is starting to be quite old: > > > we're > > > currently working on an upcoming 2.4, and the last version (2.3) provides > > > lots > > > of cool features including flight recorder tracing and snapshot support. > > > > Yes, I do apologize for the current state. My first priority was to resolve > > the > > blocked testing migration for ust and lttng-tools. My upload yesterday > > seems > > to > > have resolved the last of the ust package issues, and so now I need only to > > upload the remaining fixes for lttng-tools and the two should be eligible > > for > > migration to testing. I decided it would be easier to fix the migration > > problem > > first, and then update all of the versions to 2.3.x - it makes perfect sense > > to > > me as a packager, but I also see it's completely backwards from a user's > > perspective. > > > > Sid should have 2.3.x immediately and I will push these versions before the > > weekend ends. > > > > The migration is also very important to me, as Jessie will freeze soon. I > > will > > continue on that front after 2.3.x is in sid. > > > > Does this sound like a reasonable plan? > > Hi Jon, > > We seem to have a problem here. The pace of packaging on Debian currently does > not seem to match our support cycle at all. You are currently targeting LTTng > 2.1 for testing (and therefore next stable), while we specified a release > policy back in August: > http://lists.lttng.org/pipermail/lttng-dev/2013-August/021132.html which > clearly states that we currently support LTTng 2.3, and only do security fix > backports for 2.2. Therefore, 2.1 is clearly unsupported at this point. > > I strongly advise to update packages in sid ASAP to LTTng 2.3, and we need to > know how much time it takes to get it into testing, and figure out if it makes > into the upcoming stable. I restate help offer on behalf of the LTTng > community: if you lack time to update those packages, please let us know, and > we will give a hand ensuring that those are updated in sid soon after the > upstream releases. > > Thoughts ?
That is not exactly what I intended to convey, let me be more direct about my view. I completely agree that sid should have 2.3.x immediately. I also agree that 2.3 should be targeted for testing, and therefore the next stable release. Last night I uploaded a lttng-modules update (2.3.2). Just earlier I uploaded ust 2.3.0. Once ust is accepted and available, I will upload lttng-tools 2.3.0 (since lttng-tools depends on ust to build successfully). So I expect sid to have a complete 2.3 suite very soon. The only thing that will slow me down are the ftp masters - ust saw a soname bump which introduces a new package and therefore requires human intervention - this can take up to a week for processing. If all goes well, these packages will move to testing after 10 days, and will be included in the next stable release. There could be a problem with the testing upgrade process, but that shouldn't be a difficult problem to solve. I will try to test the transition myself while I wait for the packages to land in sid. In summary I think I'm very close to having everything in good order for both sid and jessie. Does this all make sense? -- Jon _______________________________________________ lttng-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.lttng.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lttng-dev
