They're some very good reasons to bash Mandrake, not linux in general.

After all, Linux is just a kernel, I can make the userspace do wahtever I want it to. Heck I could make it as unusable as Windows!

I agree that's a stupid thing to do on Mandrake's part. Never, I repeat _*NEVER*_ _*EVER*_ automagically add permissions to a user's files/directories. Removing them, possibly (777ing your home is probably a mistake and I wouldn't mind TOO much if they "corrected" it for me, but granting permissions I took away is WRONG). Remind me to flame Manduck at my earliest convience for that trick (not that I use it anyway :)

You might want to consider RedHat or Debian, possibly SuSE. RedHat especially tries to be user friendly, but tends to not be quite as automated as Mandrake (though it can get pretty bad, but that's from a person who likes to build his own linux installs by hand from source). Debian is great if you want a good amount of control over your system but don't want to do everythign by hand. If you're really a control freak, then Slackware might be worth a try, but be prepared to do some heavy man'ing since it doesn't do much of anything for you.

--MonMotha

Joe Linux wrote:
I hardly call it a feature that any user can look at any other user's files. What kind of security is that?

Then it takes a full day to figure out nothing about how to fix it? Trust me, these are some of the reasons people are very slow to migrate to Linux.


Warren Togami wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:30 AM
Subject: [luau] Unwanted Perrmissions Changes - Drake 8.2


I'm very frustrated.  I want the permissions on my home directory and
other users home directory to be 770, but the Mandrake Linux  System
constantly changes the permissions back to 755 on these directories.  Is
there anyway to stop it from doing this?

Permissions and the lack of control over them are the most annoying
thing about Linux, and probably a primary reason the entire OS is not
very popular.


Please don't jump the gun and blame it on Linux.  This sounds to be a
feature, not a bug, of Mandrake's MSEC security module that enforces certain
access controls because it thinks it knows better than the user.  In most
cases it DOES know better than the user, but in your case you must figure
out how to disable it.

http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php
Please read this page for more details.  The simple fix would be to lower
your msec security level (you can find that in DrakConf).

Just remember when it comes to most security, security is an inverse curve
to usability.

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