Chris Kloiber of Red Hat Enterprise Support gave another suggestion
(attached).  I was thinking the same thing although I thought you tried
this already.  I can SSH into the box and transfer the GRUB to the MBR
of your SCSI array if you want.

Please give me a call anytime before midnight.  I will e-mail you my
phone number directly.
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On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 00:56, Warren Togami wrote:
> Another difficult question from my local LUG.  Is it possible to install
> GRUB and boot directly off of the Adaptec RAID 5?
> 
> Thanks for your support.
> Warren Togami
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> From: R. Scott Belford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [luau] bootable raid and the MBR
> Date: 24 May 2002 18:46:09 -1000
> 
> I have been getting spanked by something throughout the day that Adaptec 
> and Tyan tech. support have bounced to each other.  I have built this 
> aforementioned server with 2gb ram on Tyan's Tiger mboard with the MPX 
> chipset for dual athlons.  The drive setup of choice is a raid5 scsi 
> array controlled by Adaptec's 3210s controller.  For testing, moving 
> things around, and for off disk archiving, I have placed an IDE drive on 
> the secondary controller.
> 
> Redhat's 7.3 install does a great job of recognizing and loading the 
> drivers for the raid controller.  (7.2 required and expert install and 
> loading the drivers from floppy)  The problem, of sorts, comes up when I 
> choose where to put GRUB.  The MBR is on the IDE drive.  While I can 
> boot this way, and, being a production server, rebooting ought not come 
> up much, it is disturbing that I can't put the MBR on the drives that 
> have the most reliability.
> 
> I'm smart, so I think, and I'm smarter than this motherboard, so I 
> think, so I take some action.  I take out the ide drive. (after ALWAYS 
> disconnecting power cables) I reboot, make sure that the ide is gone 
> from bios, adjust my boot order in bios to put the raid controller 
> (which shows up specifically) second in line behind the cd rom, and I 
> reboot.  Bios posts, raid controller posts, cdrom spins up to boot from, 
> blank screen.  Reboot, Try again.  Reboot, Try again.  Reset bios to 
> defaults, try again, reset bios eeprom or whatever that thing is, try 
> again.  Each time I hear the cdrom spin up, I see the floppy drive light 
> come on, and it is clear that my bios is searching the order I gave it 
> to boot from.  It just won't boot anything.  Open case, disconnect raid 
> array from controller, reboot, this time after posting, etc., the CD 
> spins up and installation begins.  Damn.  Turn off box, reconnect array, 
> reboot, cdrom spins up and system stays blank.  Curses.  Turn off, 
> reconnect IDE drive, reboot, CD spins up this time and installation 
> begins.  While in Disk Druid I notice this little slice on the ide drive 
> before the two partitions I put there earlier.  It is my MBR.  My 
> computer seems to like it.  So does my install CD.  My CD only boots 
> when it is there.  I don't like it as much because it is not where I 
> want it.  I curse the MBR.

The boot record is on the disconnected IDE drive. Boot from it,
reconfigure GRUB or LILO to install a boot record on the MBR of the
array, and write it there. Make a boot floppy just in case, then power
down and remove the IDE drive and try rebooting from the Hardware RAID
array.
 
> Adaptec says that it is supposed to boot and there must be something 
> wrong with the mboard.  Tyan says they get this alot and that I need to 
> make sure my controller is BBS or something like that, compliant.  I 
> wrote the acronym down at work, but I am not there.  Apparently the 
> controller is compliant, that's why I can see it specifically in Tyan's 
> bios boot order.  The problem here may not be with either.  The problem 
> may be with scott :-)
> 
> I have a question after all this, I think.  How can I put the MBR on the 
> RAID array?  I have never had to "put" and MBR anywhere, but perhaps I 
> must boot from a floppy and format the mbr or something.  I don't think 
> that I can boot with a win98 floppy and run fdisk mbr to do this.  Is 
> there something comically easy that I am missing?  Does any wise soul 
> have a suggestion or some insight into this?  You know, come to think of 
> it. I did not try to boot with another installation CD.  Surely this 
> couldn't be an issue, could it?

Never tried it with grub yet, but with LILO you edit the first line of
/etc/lilo.conf (may be /etc/lilo.conf.anaconda in 7.3) to tell it where
the bootloader should be installed. Save the file and run 'lilo -v -v'

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