Dwight,

You need to come to one of our workshops. If you want to see some of the hundreds of computers or monitors that we at HOSEF has saved from the landfill and have waiting for your wife, please come on by. I cannot say that ours or any computer recycling program will fix our landfill problem, but every bit counts. With the help of the good folks at Pricebusters we have several thousand square feet of functioning stand alone and thin-client workstations.

If you come by, and you can get your wife interested in one of our free classes or in spending some time with us at the workshop, we will give her as many stand-alone PII and PIII workstations as she can handle. Our only stipulation is that you or her spend some time with us getting familiar with the Linux Desktop. No technology is complete without training, and we try as hard to offer free training as we do to offer free computers. I have spent over 300 hours this year opening our workshop up to people like yourself who are ready to put the time in to learn more.

Liholiho Elementary, The McKinley School for Adults, The Hawaii Agriculture Research Commission, Redemption Academy in Kailua, and St. John's all have functioning and free computers and printers that were once bound for the landfill and that are now serving these organizations and schools. As it stands, we have more computers than volunteers willing to help us give them away. Come down and check us out. We and our free machines are waiting on you.

http://www.hosef.org

--scott

R. Scott Belford
Founder/Chair/Treasurer
The Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation
P.O. Box 392
Kailua, HI 96734
808.689.6518
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sunday, September 21, 2003, at 11:12 PM, Dwight wrote:

I did some looking with Google and found the following info:
http://www.electronicsrecycling.net/menu2/search/eiasearch.asp?state=HI

This site provides information regarding electronics recyling on a
state-by-state as well as nationwide basis.  There are currently seven
organizations in Honolulu that accept used computer hardware (primarily for reuse purposes). One is even hosted by the office of the Governor (i.e.,
Computers for Schools Programs).

My wife is a teacher at Nanakuli High & Intermediate School. They don't have any budget for hardware or software (all of it is budgeted for the No Child Left Behind Act). At one point they were planning for a computer lab,
but for whatever reason, it fell through.  As a result, my wife got two
power mac 5000 series machines for her class. Their tech dude is so backed up I went over and networked her machines for her. Both of these machines have about 16MB of RAM each, which means they are dog slow. Having some Linux boxes in there might be able to make the difference for her school and provide them with a no-cost lab that all students can use. However, her school doesn't have any budget for support either, so that would have to be provided by volunteers...I'm not sure how Linux-savvy their tech dude is.

If our reps downtown can work on something for schools on the Leeward coast,
that would be peachy.

Dwight...

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Subject: Re: [luau] Proposed LTSP Server Config



This is exactly what I'm looking for.  However, in my experience,
businesses are catious of Linux primarily because of support
issues...they don't believe they can find the kind of support that a Dell or Cisco can provide (or Micro$oft). I'd still like to know how Linux is
supposed to address the landfill problem...all the old hardware that is
recycled for LTSP etc. doesn't compare to all of the other waste we as an
island produce.

Dwight...

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Nakashima wrote:

Just my opinion...
 From the public education perspective.

Currently, schools spend the lion's share of their budget on new
equipment from Dell, HP, Apple, etc., and on new and upgraded software
licenses. My limited experience with LTSP has taught me:
1. Schools can spend less on new hardware and software (less money
going out of the state);
2. Schools can spend more on local Linux support (more money
circulating through our local economy);
3. Schools can use recycled hardware (less landfill material).
I'm not sure if this is making any sense. Your feedback will be
appreciated.
Although my experiences are limited to what's going on in public
education, wouldn't this also be true for private and higher education,
government, business, and other orgs?

On Sunday, September 21, 2003, at 04:09  PM, Dwight Victor wrote:

I'm curious to know how Linux can enhance the local economy and deal
with
the landfill problem.  Please elaborate.

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