I'm not talking about putting a Linksys et. al, AP in you hotel hallway, I am talking about a commercial Wi-Fi deployment. You are not going to deploy that crappy equipment in Waikiki and expect not to be over run by the guys already there using much more powerful equipment.

C'mon Jim. We are going to be on opposite sides of this discussion forever so let's just agree to disagree. As long as you have hardheaded, old boys running the hotels there is no way you are going to have free wireless in Waikiki. I have been here for 15 years and nothing has changed that would make hotel execs see the light. If something is sold on your wireless AP they want a cut. As recently as last week Friday that was the case.

If you don't believe me talk to Gordon Bruce. He'll tell you of the countless headaches and bickering he has endured from all the players about how they are going to get their cut of the rev-share pie. It is just not realistic to think it will ever happen here.

I am right in the middle of it. Bandwidth charges and Wi-Fi. I know all about it.

MD

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I'm sorry, but a single AP in your coffee shop/mcdonalds/lunch counter/.... will cost you less than $100.

Hotels (on the mainland) have figured out that people will preferentially stay where there first was WiFi and now folks will stay where its free. This is especially true in the "3 star" level places. (Nobody expects water to be free in the Four Seasons.)

Jim

On Jun 6, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Maddog wrote:

I know plenty about the cost of bandwidth. I also know about the cost of deploying wireless equipment and maintaining the network. It is not viable to offer free wi-fi unless you can pay for the costs.

MD
Bandwidth and equipment cost money and I don't see any companies lining up to donate either.

Bandwidth... what do you know about bandwidth charges?

MD

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