Dan Weinreb (one of the co-founders of Symbolics, along with Moon, Holloway, and Knight) finally has spoken publicly about RMS, the start of Project GNU, and why Symbolics failed.

<http://dlweinreb.wordpress.com/2007/11/11/rebuttal-to-stallmans-story-about-the-formation-of-symbolics-and-lmi/ >

Note that Moon and Greenburg (both hot-shot hackers easily as good or better than Stallman) weigh in about the origins of emacs in the comment thread.

See also: <http://dlweinreb.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/why-did-symbolics-fail/ >

Also, apparently wnj (Bill Joy) was the "unix hacker" who didn't understand the "PC loser-ing problem" (PCLSRing), as referenced in Gabriel's "Worse is Better" (<http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html >): <http://programming.reddit.com/info/60uau/comments/c02hjk6>
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