Hello all,

Walter, what is the status on this topic?

Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
Gustavo Silva


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2015-05-28 21:04 GMT+01:00 Gustavo Silva <[email protected]>:

> Hello all,
>
> I deeply understand your point and I agree with you. Even if this is open
> source, it would be nice to have a request or somebody asking for
> permission. In the end, they assume us for support since their own
> distribution is based in Lubuntu.
>
> Other than that, even if we don't ask to remove those links, I'd suggest
> to meet them and talk about it. There's the possibility to have a win-win
> situation, as long as they're willing to work with us - and not us only to
> them.
>
>
> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
> Gustavo Silva
>
>
> *Phonebloks <https://phonebloks.com/en>, Partnership Manager*
> *Lubuntu Wiki & Documentation
> <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-wiki-docs>, Team Leader*
>
> 2015-05-28 20:01 GMT+01:00 Walter Lapchynski <[email protected]>:
>
>> As I'm sure you guys know that [LXLE][1] is a distribution based on
>> Lubuntu LTS. I admit that I am biased in that it really seems to me that
>> it's just be Lubuntu with some extra graphics stuff but it has been
>> suggested to me by people familiar with the project that this is not the
>> case. In any case, I don't really mind them existing. People obviously see
>> some value in the distro, and that's the point behind open source anyways.
>>
>> What irks me is that they list us in their [support options][2]
>> (admittedly an "external" resource) and on an unlinked [support page][3]
>> (probably deprecated, but still…) and on their [Ubuntu wiki page][4]. So
>> not only are they committing our resources to help support their users, but
>> they are even going so far as to implicate Canonical will provide paid
>> support on the unlinked page! They would be like us saying that Debian (our
>> direct upstream) will provide support for us or that Intel will support the
>> kernel (they are the [top contributor][5]). This is, at best, audacious.
>>
>> I love helping people with Linux. I am not a stranger to other distros. I
>> also feel like I know enough to help people with their problems, but just
>> as it's difficult to support people that install Ubuntu and then LXDE but
>> remove LightDM in lieu of LXDM and get rid of DBus ([seriously][6]), it's
>> even harder to support people that have Lubuntu plus some other stuff that
>> we don't necessarily have control with or experience with. My time is
>> limited and I know that I cannot hope to support such a situation.
>>
>> In fact, I would like to suggest that we ask LXLE to remove any
>> suggestions of Lubuntu providing support for them. Are there any concerns
>> on this or thoughts on the matter?
>>
>> [1]: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lxle
>> [2]: http://www.lxle.net/support-options/
>> [3]: http://lxle.net/support/
>> [4]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/lxle
>> [5]:
>> http://www.neowin.net/news/intel-overtakes-red-hat-to-become-top-linux-kernel-contributor
>> [6]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1446723
>>
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