On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Julien Lavergne <[email protected]>wrote:
> > 2013/11/23 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]> > > Hi Julien, Rafael, Sergio and everyone, >> >> @Julien >> I know that you have removed yourself from the brainstorming team and >> while I fail to understand why, talking about it does not really matter >> anymore. We need to move forward. >> > > I quit the team to remove all the mail I got from it. Last time I tried to > filter the mails from launchpad blueprints, that was a mess ... And just > for the record, I created it just because phillw asked me to do the > paperwork and the launchpad configuration, I never was a huge fan of this > idea (see below). > > >> Having that said, kindly have a look at: >> >> >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/brainstorming-team-lead >> >> It has all the details and the emails I sent. >> >> I'm CC'ing the Brainstorming Team. >> >> The current drivers of Lubuntu need to decide the future of Lubuntu >> Brainstorming Team. With the current situation of Lubuntu, I can no longer >> carry on and I have many reasons I prefer not to discuss right now because >> this could make things even worse. >> > > I'll be the bad guy here, but I don't think this project help us (read, > the devs). Most of the ideas are ideas we already have. We just don't have > the time to implement them properly. And send us reminders, mails, > blueprints and stuff, doesn't help. Previouly, we did this stuff on a > single blueprint by team, with discussion inside. That's worked, more or > less. This time I didn't do it for the devs team because 14.04 is a > fix-bug-release only. Experimentations, new stuff should have be done on > 13.10, not 14.04. > > Currently, we need people to implement them, but we don't have currently > the infrastructure to train people to help us. So, also, any request for > help for the devs team is useless unless the person is able to deal with > problems himself (I think I already said that during an IRC meeting, but I > also may have imagine it). > > >> I know since 15-May-2012 you have stepped down as the leader of Lubuntu >> but I am not sending you this because you are the leader, I am sending you >> this because you, Rafael and Sergio are the current Team Leaders (Dev, >> Artwork and Wiki) :) ... and ... in case you don't know, Lubuntu >> Communications has no Team Leader/Driver but Ibere and David are taking >> good care of the Social Media. Support Team is no longer exist: >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-sub-teams >> > > Please read again my answer about the teams. There are not supposed to be > organizations + chief. They are supposed to be a group of people willing to > help on a area. A team doesn't need a leader, and worse, doesn't need a > self-appointed leader. A leader emerges naturally from a group, not the > opposite. > > >> >> I have sent so many reminders and emails but no one seems interested to >> step in. Just in case I need to re-remind you that, I do have many other >> roles that I need to focus on. >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement >> >> So, please Julien, Rafael and Sergio, I appreciate if we could sit and >> talk about the future of this area - Lubuntu Brainstorming Team. >> > Sure! what do you prefer by email or irc meeting? > >> I refuse to remain the owner of the launchpad team and sit there doing >> nothing. As long as I am the driver, I must do something and as I made it >> extra clear, I have disengaged myself from Lubuntu Activities: >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-November/006233.html >> >> So, you see, I am not in a good position here. It is either I remain the >> driver of that area and carry on with my usual activities or step down. I >> have decided to step down. >> > > Well, if this really bother you, just set me as the driver as a temporary > solution, until people who want to work on this area organize themselves. > I'll find a way to filter the mail if it's needed. > > Regards, > Julien Lavergne > > > > >
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