2013/11/12 Andre Rodovalho <[email protected]>: > I think the Youtube Channel is very interesting... People today are lazy > about reading, but most teenagers likes videos. Maybe the best thing to do > is to fuse Lubuntu Screencasts made by Leszek on this Lubuntu101... > > Screenscasts by Leszek are pretty old, but indeed, many things on them are > still usefull. So, I guess keeping always the lubuntu version on the video > title is enough for people to know that: this might not be applicable to > another version, but it could be... > > > 2013/11/12 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Iberê Fernandes >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi there, >>> >> >> Hi :) >> >>> >>> I'm Iberê, I'm your new social media admin. >> >> >> And don't forget you are leading Lubuntu Communications starting today ;) >> >>> >>> >>> Once Linux is about meritocracy, I'm proud to thank you for having me >>> as your social media admin. >> >> >> You deserve it :) >> >> >>> >>> >>> Besides meritocracy, it's also important to share experience and why I >>> think I can help Lubuntu at social media. >>> >>> I have an experience of almost 10 years as a former Web Surfer, >>> Product Manager, Project Manager and Community Manager (may vary >>> according to my career evolution) of products such as Yahoo! >>> Directory, Yahoo! Search, Flickr, Yahoo! Answers, Yahoo! Groups, >>> Yahoo! Mail, GeoCities, Yahoo! Bookmarks, Delicious, Yahoo! Profiles, >>> Yahoo! Videos and some others I don't remember now. :-) My main >>> expertise are to deal with i18n, l10n, testing/QA, and product >>> analysis. >> >> >> That is why you can help the community and that is why Lubuntu needs >> people like you :) >> >>> >>> >>> Now to the social media cleaning project. >>> >>> In a simple image: >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ibere-Fernandes/lubuntusocialmediacleaning >>> >>> Once we have too many official social media channels (12 if I did not >>> miss any) and so few headcount to admin those channels, I propose to >>> *focus* on the main project: Lubuntu, official lightweight Ubuntu >>> flavor. Let's test it and guarantee that 14.04 is our first rock solid >>> LTS. >> >> >> +1 >> I have been thinking a lot about this recently and I am very glad you have >> taken the initiative and sent this email :) >> >>> >>> >>> @Ali, please, tell us if I miss any Lubuntu official social media >>> channels. >> >> >> These are the 'official' channels for Lubuntu: >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs >> >> WOWLubuntu, although it is a Community Project, it has never been used and >> despite many who showed their interest about it, NO ONE has done anything >> yet so it is totally safe to keep it a side for the time being. >> >> >> >>> And now how to promote Lubuntu and keep focus on fewer channels. (or >>> the not so simple version) >>> >>> Yes, it's important to keep Lubuntu on social media, but it's even >>> more important to keep our social media channels updated and relevant >>> to Lubuntu. >> >> >> NO doubt about that = +1 >> >> >>> >>> Why Lubuntu needs social media? >>> Official announcements, showcase, publish how-tos, tricks/tips, >>> recruitment of testers and anyone who might want to help build >>> Lubuntu. Social media channels are the places where Lubuntu Team >>> shares its identity and develop relationship with Lubuntu users. >>> Sharing, making conversations, help to find the appropriate support >>> channels (wikis, forums, irc channel). >> >> >> No doubt :) >> >> >>> >>> >>> What are the the top social media channels according to google search? >>> https://www.google.com.br/search?q=popular+social+media >>> >>> a) http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/social-networking-websites >>> >>> b) >>> http://webtrends.about.com/od/socialnetworkingreviews/tp/Social-Networking-Sites.htm >>> : be careful once it's from 2012 >>> >>> c) >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2475591/Twitter-overtakes-Facebook-popular-social-network-teens-according-study.html >>> >> >> Let's KISS (Keep It Simple and Short), my friend :) >> >> While it is always good to do such kind of research and digging, we need >> to save time and resource and simply have a look at the current channels >> that we have. Based on two important factors, we can easily decide where to >> focus: >> >> 1- Number of Subscribers/Followers to that specific Channel >> 2- Traffic and User Interactions >> >> The more the above factors have, the better we focus on. >> >> End of story :D >> >>> >>> >>> From the above, what are the relevant social media channels to >>> Lubuntu? By relevant I mean: what are the channels worth to promote >>> Lubuntu and get more users downloading and using Lubuntu as a Windows >>> alternative. Keep in mind these questions when reading the rest of >>> this e-mail. >>> >>> From my view, Facebook, Google Plus, maybe Twitter. >> >> >> +1 >> I share the same opinion with you. These are the main without a question >> :) >> >> >>> >>> >>> Are teenagers relevant to Lubuntu? Yes. >>> >>> Are they prone to run old computers? No, they're the "touch generation". >> >> >> Well, you never know. Some teenagers are interested, why not? :) >> >> >>> >>> Should we open more social media channels such as LinkedIn, MySpace, >>> Pinterest, Instagram? I do not think so. If you think so, share with >>> us and let us know who will admin the proposed channels, what's the >>> strategy for the new channels. >> >> >> HUGE NO for this. We don't have enough energy + resources + time for that. >> >> >>> So if Lubuntu Team is thinking about opening new official social media >>> channels, please, before opening new channels, let's discuss: >>> >>> I) who'll manage the channel; >>> >>> II) would the proposed content fit in an existing channel? >>> >>> III) is the new social media channel relevant on the Internet to >>> attract new users to Lubuntu as a Windows alternative? >>> >>> IV) is the new social media channel relevant to recruit Lubuntu team >>> members/supporters? >> >> >> See my previous thought about that :) >> Again, please NO :) >> >> >>> >>> Should we kill some of the official social channels? (full list in the >>> next topic) >>> From my view, let's kill the following (or not keep as official >>> channels if the ones running a given channel decides to keep running >>> it): >> >> >> NO. DO NOT KILL anything. Just ignore these channels until we release >> 14.04 and after that, we can discuss. These channels can remain inactive for >> 6 months. Who knows? maybe during this cycle we will find interested people >> who can look after these? so please, DO NOT kill whatever we have right now, >> this is not good idea at all. Instead, just keep them a side, that is all. >> >> >>> >>> >>> 5) https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial : 558 followers. 58 tweets. We >>> have control on that channel. Besides, the channel has not been >>> active. >> >> >> While that account has NOT been active, just for everyone information, >> Twitter can spread the word much faster and better than any other Social >> Network. Due to the nature of Twitter Platform, you don't have to follow >> Lubuntu to see Lubuntu Tweets. Those who have Twitter account will >> understand that. So, please, KEEP this one. >> >> >>> >>> >>> 6) http://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/ : 379 readers. Should stay as >>> personal project, not official. >> >> >> -1 >> Ignore this and keep it a side. >> >> >>> >>> >>> 7) http://www.youtube.com/user/Lubuntu101: 106 subscriptions. We have >>> control on that channel. Should stay as personal project, not >>> official. Or kill it. >> >> >> -1 >> Ignore it and keep it a side. >> For two years, I have been looking for someone who create YouTube videos >> but no one stepped in so I guess it is safe to ignore it and keep it a side >> until someone steps in. >> >> >>> >>> >>> 10) https://www.facebook.com/WOWLubuntu: 999 likes. Not an active >>> sub-project. >> >> >> -1 >> Ignore it and keep it a side for now. >> >> >>> >>> >>> 11) https://plus.google.com/100534526082640317485/posts : 239 >>> followers. Not an active sub-project. >>> >> >> -1 >> Ignore it and keep it a side for now. >> >> >> >>> >>> 12) http://wowlubuntu.blogspot.com.br/ : Not an active sub-project. >>> >> >> -1 >> Ignore it and keep it a side for now. >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> The full list of Official Lubuntu Communications channels: >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/eveContactUs#Find_Lubuntu >> >> >> FOCUS on: >> >> Lubuntu Facebook Page (NOT group) >> Lubuntu Google+ Page (NOT Community) >> Lubuntu on Twitter (the one we have control over) >> >> These are the TOP 3 channels that WE should focus on :) >> >> >>> >>> >>> 1) http://lubuntu.net/ : we do not know who's in charge of that blog. >>> Ali's trying to communicate with the owner. Seems to be relevant >>> according to google search and distrowatch: >>> https://www.google.com.br/search?q=lubuntu >>> >>> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lubuntu >> >> >> >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-website >> >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-blog >> >> I vote to use the Blog and ignore the website as long as the owner refuses >> to hand over the access to the team. And if there is someone else who has >> access, he/she is refusing to speak up and refusing to reply our emails. We >> are wasting our time with the website. >> >> >>> >>> >>> 2) http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com.br/ : Rafael Laguna (Lubuntu >>> artwork Team Leader) personal blog. Will it become and official >>> channel or keep as a personal blog? @Rafael, please, we need your >>> input. >> >> >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-blog >> >> >>> >>> >>> 3) https://www.facebook.com/Lubuntu.Official.Page : 82681 Facebook >>> users like this. We have control on that channel. Keep this channel. >>> Lots of likes/followers. Work as official announcements. >> >> >> +1 >> Definitely Keep it and Focus on this. >> >> >>> >>> >>> 4) >>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/106362800741775815583/106362800741775815583/posts >>> : 3795 G+ users are following that page. We have control on that >>> channel. Work as official announcements. >> >> >> +1 >> Definitely Keep it and Focus on this. >> >> >>> >>> >>> 5) https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial : 558 followers. 58 tweets. We >>> have control on that channel. >> >> >> As I stated earlier: + 1 Keep it and focus on this. >> >> >>> >>> >>> 6) http://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/ : 379 readers. >> >> >> -1 >> Ignore it and keep it a side for now. >> >> >>> >>> >>> 7) http://www.youtube.com/user/Lubuntu101: 106 subscriptions. We have >>> control on that channel. >>> >> >> -1 >> Ignore it and Keep it a side for now. >> >> >>> >>> There're more: >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs#See_Also >>> >>> 8) https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/ : Official group >>> at Facebook. 800 members. Keep this channel. Lots of likes/followers. >>> Used for showcase, Lubuntu tips/tricks, redirect users to the correct >>> support channels. >> >> >> 0 >> >> I personally see no point to waste time on this but that is my opinion. I >> saw to keep it but don't focus on it and find someone who can look after it. >> >> >>> >>> >>> 9) https://plus.google.com/communities/102737741860934586009 : 572 >>> members. The same use as #7. >> >> >> -1 >> Ignore it and keep it a side for now. >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> And there're even more: >>> >>> 10) https://www.facebook.com/WOWLubuntu: 999 likes. Sub-project of >>> Lubuntu Communications. >>> >>> 11) https://plus.google.com/100534526082640317485/posts : 239 >>> followers. Sub-project of Lubuntu Communications. >>> >>> 12) http://wowlubuntu.blogspot.com.br/ : not an active channel. >>> Sub-project of Lubuntu Communications. >> >> >> -1 >> Ignore WOWLubuntu unless someone so serious steps in. >> >> >> >>> >>> @David Yentzen <[email protected]> wants to take care of that >>> channel since november 2nd. However nothing has changed on the blog. >>> @David, we need your confirmation, otherwise, closing channel. >> >> >> +1 >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> 13) http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lubuntu+screencast : >>> Leslek personal screencasts on Lubuntu. Although it's kind of old, >>> there're still some good info on those screencasts. Check the views of >>> each of them. Should stay as personal project unless Leslek would like >>> to become our official You Tube channel. >>> @Leslek, we need your input. >> >> >> Not sure what is the point behind that but I'd say keep everything as it >> is for now. I don't think there is time to do much on that. >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Once this e-mail is too long, I think 10 days (november 22nd) are ok >>> until everybody insterested replies. >> >> >> Speaking from two long years of Lubuntu Communicaitons Lead and Currently >> Ubuntu GNOME Communications Lead + Peppermint Community Manager + Ubuntu >> Quality Social Media Administrator ... I would advise to: >> >> Keep the channels that has the most traffic + the most subscribers, one >> channel per platform (Facebook, Goolge+ and Twitter) >> Ignore all the other until we find someone to manage these. We can keep >> them a side for 6 months (this cycle) and after 14.04, we can do >> re-assessment and discuss this yet again after 6 months. >> Keep in mind before taking any decision that we are fighting against TIME >> and we have no time, not enough manpower and not much of resources (humans >> and non-humans). The activities of the whole community has dropped down big >> time compared to other releases and key players/active contributors have >> quit. Yes, me included. I am around just to help not to lead :) >> KISS (Keep It Simple and Short) - this is Lubuntu Philosophy. >> While this may sound totally off-topic but I think it is relevant. Lubuntu >> Wiki Area need MORE love than Lubuntu Social Channels. I am much worried >> about that more than the Social Media. I do trust Sergio and I acknowledge >> his skills but alone? he will be burned out because he is doing everything >> all by himself. Beside me helping him and I guess Phill is helping as well, >> I am not aware of who else is helping him? >> >> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> >>> -- >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ibere-Fernandes >> >> >> Thank you so much! >> >> >> >> -- >> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >> Best Regards, >> amjjawad >> Areas of Involvement >> My Projects >> >> -- >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >> >
I'd like to thank all of you for all the suggestions and feedack so far. Once November 22nd is the deadline I proposed, I'm looking to having more replies, more suggestions, and more contributions. I'll also post something on our social media channels with a different approach (tks for your suggestions @Ali). Best regards, -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ibere-Fernandes -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
